[meteorite-list] A difference of opinion

From: Rob and Colleen <iguana_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:49:00 2004
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Kevin/Michael

Let us just pray then. Oh please make terrorism and religious zealots go away, we don't like it, it's bad. And
please God, Buddha, Mohammed, Great Spirit of the North, can I have a pony too?

Sorry, only fools try to wish things away.

I advocate doing this right, minimizing innocent deaths, but when we (NATO) are assured of our targets then I pray
that we destroy them with a fury that will be legendary, even in Hell.

Pray for the dead, the families of the dead, our heroes, our president and world leaders. But if you are praying for
anything other than the death of terrorists as a whole then those prayers are wasted and perhaps you should consider
a difference of religion.

This is not boasting, this is the view of the US government, Millions of Americans, and if you watch the news, a few
other countries too. I don't sit around wishing for war, this is not a dream come true, a chance to unleash my own
personal wrath. I have no desire to fight but fight we must and I will go if called upon. We are dealing with the
insane, a new breed of terrorist bent on destroying anyone who isn't religious enough for him. They kill
indiscriminately. There is no religious solution here and I hope I misread your intent of your post.

Finally, we agree on the bashing of poor Matteo. We need to get on. The same people who chastised him for "life must
go on" were obviously sitting at their computers reading their email. Life goes on guys. Stores are open, planes are
flying, the stock market reopens Monday. Capitalism continues and Matteo is dealing with this just like the rest of
us. We know his posts are always threefold but we subscribe to those three lists. They are always threefold, we know
this, so let's not go mustang on this little issue. Someone had to be the first to resume the regular activities of
daily living. He is an asset to this group.

Kevin/Michael. I have always enjoyed your posts in the past and again I hope I have misread your intent here.

Rob Wesel
Ambassador of freedom, don't own a gun or know how to use one, agnostic, 30-year-old whiteneck.



MARSROX_at_aol.com wrote:

> I just came in from six hours of collecting yard debris scattered by Tropical
> Storm Gabriel this morning. There's enough to fill a small dumpster. A fifty
> foot (16m) Washingtonian Palm was blown over next door falling between our
> houses. During my chores I found myself fuming over some of the dialogue
> that's passed this way during the last days. I will offer here a different
> observation.
>
> List members have offered their views about this week's horror. The views
> range from offering prayers (I'm all for that) to "nuke their babies with
> bombs slick with pig grease" (I'm all against that).
>
> The latter redneck suggestion personally offends me and doesn't reflect what
> America stands for. I'll remind my pompous friends that each of us is an
> ambassador of our country on this list that circulates around the world. I'll
> remind my friends that Teddy Roosevelt prepared for war with these words -
> "Walk softly and carry a big stick."
>
> I'll assume from these boasts, that certain list members will be applying to
> join a branch of our Armed Forces this Monday and ask for duty in Afghanistan
> so that they can better let their deeds match their vengeful desires. We
> mostly need human intelligence so you'll be assigned to infiltrate the devils
> liar. Grow a beard and smell like a camel, it's part of the uniform.
>
> Having looked over the border into Afghanistan from Pakistan and walked away
> alive, walked away from arms dealers with discount Stinger missiles (some
> assembly required), barrels of hash oil, and the knowledge that a "bad deal"
> would result in my head becoming a polo ball for horsemen, I'll challenge my
> belligerent justice seekers taking up space here with their macho rhetoric to
> cross the Hindu Kush and seek and destroy the enemy within. In "Victory they
> will prevail". Send me a card.
>
> Otherwise, please put your wee-wees back in your pocket.
>
> The second matter concerns approximately the same individuals chastising
> Matteo for advertising a meteorite sale yesterday. I note that Matteo sent
> his sympathies to this list on Sept. 11. I also note that every bank,
> government office, 7-11 and McDonald's in SW Florida is open for business
> yesterday, today and tomorrow. No public or private school in Lee County
> Florida has ever closed due to this disaster. Apparently everyone is "selfish
> and unpatriotic" around here.
>
> This IS the "Meteorite bulletin board", not a venue for hysterical political
> babblings. I'm disappointed with this needless public embarrassment of
> Matteo. To be fair, be sure to insult Steve Arnold who just sent me a list of
> goodies available in Denver. Be sure to insult all the dealers in Denver who
> are pushing meteorites this moment for their own personal greed. Go ahead and
> insult me for not praying in all four cardinal directions this morning.
>
> Conversely , the church service I watched at noon during a break in my work
> was so inspirational. The Reverend Billy Graham sure grabbed my attention
> with his message that "the dead are in heaven now and I assure you they don't
> want to come back here!"
>
> Hopefully in Heaven I won't have to read the crap I've seen here. Actually I
> don't have to read here and now.
>
> Matteo is not a friend or acquaintance. Neither is he the devil incarnate.
> Matteo has done nothing wrong and is owed an apology from those who have
> insulted him. My time is valuable and I don't waste it reading messages from
> those who don't have a mature point-of-view. If I don't see an apology, I
> will be blocking the addresses of these offenders from my mailbox (you're
> first up Harlan.....).
>
> And by the way all you "masters of war" - be careful what you wish for, it
> might come true.
>
> Kevin Kichinka
>
> Check out the new Meteorite Central logo wear at http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=meteorites
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Kevin/Michael

<P>Let us just pray then. Oh please make terrorism and religious zealots
go away, we don't like it, it's bad. And please God, Buddha, Mohammed,
Great Spirit of the North, can I have a pony too?

<P>Sorry, only fools try to wish things away.

<P>I advocate doing this right, minimizing innocent deaths, but when we
(NATO) are <U>assured</U> of our targets then I pray that we destroy them
with a fury that will be legendary, even in Hell.

<P>Pray for the dead, the families of the dead, our heroes, our president
and world leaders. But if you are praying for anything other than the death
of terrorists as a whole then those prayers are wasted and perhaps you
should consider a difference of religion.

<P>This is not boasting, this is the view of the US government, Millions
of Americans, and if you watch the news, a few other countries too. I don't
sit around wishing for war, this is not a dream come true, a chance to
unleash my own personal wrath. I have no desire to fight but fight we must
and I will go if called upon. We are dealing with the insane, a new breed
of terrorist bent on destroying anyone who isn't religious enough for him.
They kill indiscriminately. There is no religious solution here and I hope
I misread your intent of your post.

<P>Finally, we agree on the bashing of poor Matteo. We need to get on.
The same people who chastised him for "life must go on" were obviously
sitting at their computers reading their email. Life goes on guys. Stores
are open, planes are flying, the stock market reopens Monday. Capitalism
continues and Matteo is dealing with this just like the rest of us. We
know his posts are always threefold but we subscribe to those three lists.
They are always threefold, we know this, so let's not go mustang on this
little issue. Someone had to be the first to resume the regular activities
of daily living. He is an asset to this group.

<P>Kevin/Michael. I have always enjoyed your posts in the past and again
I hope I have misread your intent here.

<P>Rob Wesel
<BR>Ambassador of freedom, don't own a gun or know how to use one, agnostic,
30-year-old whiteneck.
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;

<P>MARSROX_at_aol.com wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I just came in from six hours of collecting yard
debris scattered by Tropical
<BR>Storm Gabriel this morning. There's enough to fill a small dumpster.
A fifty
<BR>foot (16m) Washingtonian Palm was blown over next door falling between
our
<BR>houses. During my chores I found myself fuming over some of the dialogue
<BR>that's passed this way during the last days. I will offer here a different
<BR>observation.

<P>List members have offered their views about this week's horror. The
views
<BR>range from offering prayers (I'm all for that) to "nuke their babies
with
<BR>bombs slick with pig grease" (I'm all against that).

<P>The latter redneck suggestion personally offends me and doesn't reflect
what
<BR>America stands for. I'll remind my pompous friends that each of us
is an
<BR>ambassador of our country on this list that circulates around the world.
I'll
<BR>remind my friends that Teddy Roosevelt prepared for war with these
words -
<BR>"Walk softly and carry a big stick."

<P>I'll assume from these boasts, that certain list members will be applying
to
<BR>join a branch of our Armed Forces this Monday and ask for duty in Afghanistan
<BR>so that they can better let their deeds match their vengeful desires.
We
<BR>mostly need human intelligence so you'll be assigned to infiltrate
the devils
<BR>liar. Grow a beard and smell like a camel, it's part of the uniform.

<P>Having looked over the border into Afghanistan from Pakistan and walked
away
<BR>alive, walked away from arms dealers with discount Stinger missiles
(some
<BR>assembly required), barrels of hash oil, and the knowledge that a "bad
deal"
<BR>would result in my head becoming a polo ball for horsemen, I'll challenge
my
<BR>belligerent justice seekers taking up space here with their macho rhetoric
to
<BR>cross the Hindu Kush and seek and destroy the enemy within. In "Victory
they
<BR>will prevail". Send me a card.

<P>Otherwise, please put your wee-wees back in your pocket.

<P>The second matter concerns approximately the same individuals chastising
<BR>Matteo for advertising a meteorite sale yesterday. I note that Matteo
sent
<BR>his sympathies to this list on Sept. 11. I also note that every bank,
<BR>government office, 7-11 and McDonald's in SW Florida is open for business
<BR>yesterday, today and tomorrow.&nbsp; No public or private school in
Lee County
<BR>Florida has ever closed due to this disaster. Apparently everyone is
"selfish
<BR>and unpatriotic" around here.

<P>This IS the "Meteorite bulletin board", not a venue for hysterical political
<BR>babblings.&nbsp; I'm disappointed with this needless public embarrassment
of
<BR>Matteo. To be fair, be sure to insult Steve Arnold who just sent me
a list of
<BR>goodies available in Denver. Be sure to insult all the dealers in Denver
who
<BR>are pushing meteorites this moment for their own personal greed. Go
ahead and
<BR>insult me for not praying in all four cardinal directions this morning.

<P>Conversely , the church service I watched at noon during a break in
my work
<BR>was so inspirational. The Reverend&nbsp; Billy Graham sure grabbed
my attention
<BR>with his message that "the dead are in heaven now and I assure you
they don't
<BR>want to come back here!"

<P>Hopefully in Heaven I won't have to read the crap I've seen here. Actually
I
<BR>don't have to read here and now.

<P>Matteo is not a friend or acquaintance. Neither is he the devil incarnate.
<BR>Matteo has done nothing wrong and is owed an apology from those who
have
<BR>insulted him. My time is valuable and I don't waste it reading messages
from
<BR>those who don't have a mature point-of-view.&nbsp; If I don't see an
apology, I
<BR>will be blocking the addresses of these offenders from my mailbox (you're
<BR>first up Harlan.....).

<P>And by the way all you "masters of war" - be careful what you wish for,
it
<BR>might come true.

<P>Kevin Kichinka

<P>Check out the new Meteorite Central logo wear at <A HREF="http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=meteorites">http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=meteorites</A>
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