[meteorite-list] panoramic view in probably carbonaceous chondrites
From: Randy Mils <acculabs_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:55:44 2004 Message-ID: <F1301TbdkSmLAztxc1o00014614_at_hotmail.com> <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>I have to agree with Dean. Every once in awhile this clown gets on the list with a long tirade on his meteorites in comparison with NWA meteorites. These long tirades can usually be reduced to one simple statement--- MY METEORITES ARE BETTER THAN YOUR METEORITES.</P> <P>Dean was perfectly correct in getting past the BS and in pointing this out.<BR><BR>Randy</P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: "dean bessey" <DEANBESSEY_at_HOTMAIL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>To: capricorn89_at_earthlink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] panoramic view in probably carbonaceous chondrites <DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 04:38:32 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>I never started it. The PELISSON's are the ones who made the moronic <DIV></DIV>>pitch <DIV></DIV>>about his meteorites being better than the NWAs and has been making <DIV></DIV>>constant <DIV></DIV>>idiotic comments to that effect for months. He made the NWA comment <DIV></DIV>>in his <DIV></DIV>>posting. Not me. I spoke nothing but the truth in my email. The <DIV></DIV>>stones are <DIV></DIV>>worth more than twice as much because of the strewnfield data is <DIV></DIV>>known. If a <DIV></DIV>>researcher or collector wants to pay double to have the strewnfield <DIV></DIV>>data <DIV></DIV>>thats fine with me. I dont have a problem with that. People can buy <DIV></DIV>>anything <DIV></DIV>>that they want. I just dont like people playing "My meteorites is <DIV></DIV>>better <DIV></DIV>>than your meteorites" and using the "holier than thou" agruement <DIV></DIV>>crap to <DIV></DIV>>support it. <DIV></DIV>>And what gives you the right to go shooting off in public that I am <DIV></DIV>>somehow <DIV></DIV>>being "unprofessional" just because I point out the obvious and <DIV></DIV>>commenting <DIV></DIV>>on the PELISSON's continued efforts to drive the nomads out of the <DIV></DIV>>meteorite <DIV></DIV>>market so that they can have the Sahara all to themselves and drive <DIV></DIV>>the <DIV></DIV>>prices of their meteorites up even further by eliminating <DIV></DIV>>competation. Who <DIV></DIV>>is being unprofessional here? Me or some other dealer who makes <DIV></DIV>>attacks in <DIV></DIV>>public and figures that he knows better than everybody else and <DIV></DIV>>figures that <DIV></DIV>>he has a right to preech to us infidels just because he happens to <DIV></DIV>>be a <DIV></DIV>>university lecturer <DIV></DIV>>of geology. <DIV></DIV>>If the PELISSON's continue to attack NWAs because they dont like the <DIV></DIV>>way <DIV></DIV>>that a free market economy works I will continue to call a spade a <DIV></DIV>>spade. <DIV></DIV>>And I dont need your rightous preeching telling me how I should run <DIV></DIV>>my <DIV></DIV>>business any more than I need to hear this crap from the PELISSONs. <DIV></DIV>>And the nomads have just as much of a right to be in the desert <DIV></DIV>>hunting for <DIV></DIV>>meteorites as everybody else does. And until you plan on paying to <DIV></DIV>>train the <DIV></DIV>>nomads and buy equipment and provide funding so that they can give <DIV></DIV>>you all <DIV></DIV>>of the strewnfield data that you want dont go around with a halo <DIV></DIV>>over your <DIV></DIV>>head trying to convince everybody that you are better than the rest <DIV></DIV>>of us. <DIV></DIV>>DEAN <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>>From: "capricorn89" <CAPRICORN89_at_EARTHLINK.NET> <DIV></DIV>>>To: "dean bessey" <DEANBESSEY_at_HOTMAIL.COM>, <DIV></DIV>>><METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] panoramic view in probably <DIV></DIV>>>carbonaceous <DIV></DIV>>>chondrites <DIV></DIV>>>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:19:40 -0800 <DIV></DIV>>>MIME-Version: 1.0 <DIV></DIV>>>Received: from [207.69.200.246] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id <DIV></DIV>>>MHotMailBE050F290077400437DECF45C8F613A20; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 <DIV></DIV>>>20:16:42 -0800 <DIV></DIV>>>Received: from [209.178.54.223] (helo=CBLcapricorn89)by <DIV></DIV>>>smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1)id <DIV></DIV>>>16OAAK-0007KR-00; Tue, <DIV></DIV>>>08 Jan 2002 23:16:41 -0500 <DIV></DIV>>>From capricorn89_at_earthlink.net Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:18:01 -0800 <DIV></DIV>>>Message-ID: <002601c198c4$dbcde3c0$df36b2d1_at_earthlink.net> <DIV></DIV>>>References: <LAW2-F67CFCSVCS7IVP0001B1EB_at_HOTMAIL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>>X-Priority: 3 <DIV></DIV>>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal <DIV></DIV>>>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 <DIV></DIV>>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>>Hello Dean (copy to list): <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>>Without wanting to infringe on your constitutional rights (at least <DIV></DIV>>>according to U.S. Law) to freedom of expression, may I respectfully <DIV></DIV>>>suggest, <DIV></DIV>>>and recommend, for the benefit of the entire list and the <DIV></DIV>>>impression of <DIV></DIV>>>professionalism, or lack thereof, that others may see coming from <DIV></DIV>>>the list, <DIV></DIV>>>that you tone down your sales pitch for your NWA's. You, yourself, <DIV></DIV>>>cited <DIV></DIV>>>the differences in the attached post which you sent to everyone. <DIV></DIV>>>Some <DIV></DIV>>>collectors, and certainly, researchers, put value in Richard's <DIV></DIV>>>documentation <DIV></DIV>>>and the time and effort he has put toward his collecting methods; <DIV></DIV>>>others <DIV></DIV>>>just want a meteorite. That is their choice. He and you both have <DIV></DIV>>>every <DIV></DIV>>>legal right to offer specimens the way you feel best serves the <DIV></DIV>>>research <DIV></DIV>>>and <DIV></DIV>>>collecting community. <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>>Best Wishes, <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>>Ron Hartman <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>>----- Original Message ----- <DIV></DIV>>>From: dean bessey <DEANBESSEY_at_HOTMAIL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>>To: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM> <DIV></DIV>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:00 AM <DIV></DIV>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] panoramic view in probably <DIV></DIV>>>carbonaceous <DIV></DIV>>>chondrites <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>>> > ******** (they are not NWA ****************** <DIV></DIV>>> > >Best regards, <DIV></DIV>>> > >Richard & Roland PELISSON <DIV></DIV>>> > > <DIV></DIV>>> > Thats right. They are not NWAs. But if they were they would be a <DIV></DIV>>>better <DIV></DIV>>>deal <DIV></DIV>>> > for collectors wanting a piece of your really nice meteorite <DIV></DIV>>>that you <DIV></DIV>>>found <DIV></DIV>>> > and for reserachers who want some to study scientifically. <DIV></DIV>>> > If it was a NWA you could buy this for Say $20 a gram. <DIV></DIV>>>Collectors would <DIV></DIV>>> > have to shell out $20 in cash and researchers would have to give <DIV></DIV>>>$20 in <DIV></DIV>>> > value of trade material. People would pay $20 for the meteorite <DIV></DIV>>>and <DIV></DIV>>>nothing <DIV></DIV>>> > for the location data. Total $20 a gram. <DIV></DIV>>> > However, since it was found by yourself who had a little hand <DIV></DIV>>>held unit <DIV></DIV>>>that <DIV></DIV>>> > cost $400 and gives some numbers made up my man that is reading <DIV></DIV>>>of a man <DIV></DIV>>> > made satalite your meteorite now costs $50. Buyers pay $30 a <DIV></DIV>>>gram toward <DIV></DIV>>>the <DIV></DIV>>> > cost of your GPS unit and $20 for the meteorite itself. <DIV></DIV>>> > Presumably your buyers have an interest to go to the spot that <DIV></DIV>>>you found <DIV></DIV>>>i <DIV></DIV>>>t, <DIV></DIV>>> > stick up a sign that says "I was here", and take a photo to put <DIV></DIV>>>into his <DIV></DIV>>> > meteorite collection. <DIV></DIV>>> > Without paying the extra 150% people will not have an <DIV></DIV>>>opportunity to <DIV></DIV>>>have <DIV></DIV>>> > this wonderful photo shoot. And the researcher who wants it for <DIV></DIV>>>study <DIV></DIV>>>wont <DIV></DIV>>> > be able to put a photo of him standing next to the fall hole on <DIV></DIV>>>the <DIV></DIV>>>cover <DIV></DIV>>>of <DIV></DIV>>> > his research report. <DIV></DIV>>> > Congratulations on a great find. You did better than me on my <DIV></DIV>>>last <DIV></DIV>>>desert <DIV></DIV>>> > search trip. <DIV></DIV>>> > But thats OK. Rather than finding the stuff myself I have nomads <DIV></DIV>>>hired <DIV></DIV>>>to <DIV></DIV>>>do <DIV></DIV>>> > the searching for me. Just as good dont you think? After all, <DIV></DIV>>>every new <DIV></DIV>>> > medical breakthrough has had most of the work done by graduate <DIV></DIV>>>students. <DIV></DIV>>>But <DIV></DIV>>> > its the professor who gets all of the glory. <DIV></DIV>>> > Sort of the same dont you think? <DIV></DIV>>> > Still, I am envious of your find. Congratulations are in order. <DIV></DIV>>> > Cheers <DIV></DIV>>> > DEAN <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>>_________________________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>> > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. <DIV></DIV>>> > http://www.hotmail.com <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > <DIV></DIV>>> > ______________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>> > Meteorite-list mailing list <DIV></DIV>>> > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV>>> > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list <DIV></DIV>>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>_____________________________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>You dont have to go to NASA to get a Rock from outer space. Or even <DIV></DIV>>from the <DIV></DIV>>Planet Mars or the Moon. You just have to visit the Meteorite Shop. <DIV></DIV>>www.meteoriteshop.com <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>_________________________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: <DIV></DIV>>http://messenger.msn.com <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>______________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>>Meteorite-list mailing list <DIV></DIV>>Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com <DIV></DIV>>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag1_etl_EN.asp'>Click Here</a><br></html> Received on Wed 09 Jan 2002 08:09:14 AM PST |
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