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From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:06:57 2004
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Well Dean, this is the last straw, an absolutely unprovoked attack by =
you. Not once did I mention your name, or say anything concerning you. I =
guess you are drunk in Peru again. I have complied with all list rules =
for some time now, and plan too, you it seems, will not. Since Mr. =
Casper and Joel Warren did the same thing and were removed from the =
list, it seems that now it is time for you to go. The rules apply to all =
of us, if I do and attack then I should be kicked off. This is uncalled =
for, and you now need to be kicked off according to the rules of the =
meteorite mailing list.=20
Dean, seek help, you need it clearly, AA is a good start.=20
Oh yeah, did anyone on this list get a piece of Bensour with the =
slightest sign of water?=20
Dean, you keep putting your foot further and further into your mouth. No =
one believes your spew any more.=20
Good Bye
Mike Farmer
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: dean bessey=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wow....

> I know Habbibi well, watch out! Interesting man.
> Mike Farmer
>

  Geez farmer. Is there anybody in Morocco that you are not enemies =
with. Maybe you should do what everybody else does and learn to deal =
with the nomads directly. Whats it now, 17 trips - and you still cant =
get anybody to show you material before anybody else. You still cant get =
first look at anything. Some people are just slow learners I guess. =
Maybe after 6o trips you will get on good terms with somebody.

  But I guess that you are on such bad terms with anybody who speaks the =
same language as the nomads that dealing directly with them is no longer =
an option for you.

  Crawl back into your hole farmer and continue selling your overpriced =
falls for double what anybody else charges and leave the real dealing to =
the big boys who know what they are doing and who can deal on a level =
that dont get everybody mad at you. Maybe you can even talk John =
Gwillian into looking around Tucsons Red Light district next Tucson. You =
could offer him 4 grams for free of your next HUGE overpriced fall and =
he will be eating out of your hand like a baby. He dont cost much. Hell, =
maybe he could make enough money to pay the mortgage on your house. =
Thats not going to happen if you try and compete with Habibi. Habibi is =
legit and is most likely not selling fake stuff.=20

  Habibi dont have to be a con artist. Unlike you, Habibi has a very =
good working relationship directly with certain nomads and dont have to =
pay a middleman in Erfoud for his stuff. =20

  Now go cry some more farmer. Just dont get more water on your Bensour. =
It got wet enough sitting around Algeria for a month during the rain.

  Chao

  DEAN

  PS:

  For the record I dont know Habibi well. I know that he has lots of =
stuff but I dont buy from him so I cant vouch good or bad about Habibi =
from personal experience. Its not that I wont if he gave me a good =
offer. Its just that unlike farmer, I usually cut out the middlemen in =
my NWA buys. Thats why Farmer gets pissed off with me when I sell stuff =
for less than he does. Also unlike Farmer, I also dont feel a need to =
run down and tell people that my competators are people that you should =
watch out for. But I guess that Farmer and Habibi are not buying =
competators. By buying directly from the nomads I might be Habibis =
competator but since Farmer dont deal directly with the nomads Farmer =
and Habibi are are not buying competators.

  In fact the only reason that Farmer is warning you all about Habibi is =
because Habibi is selling stuff for a lot less than Farmer lists things =
at. That got Farmer bitching at Casper some years back because Casper =
sold stuff for less than him - therby depriving Farmer of an ability to =
charge more. And it got him pissed off with me about selling CR2 for =
$23.50 when the going rate was $60 (Or so farmer wanted it to be). Not =
that Habibi is selling for $10 I guess that I wont get $23.50 in the =
near future for mine but I wont use that as an excuse to warn you to not =
pay Habibi less than half what I am selling things for. If he wants to =
undercut my price that his option. I can handle the competation. I would =
take any warning that farmer makes about another meteorite competator =
with a gran of salt. At least realize where the warning is coming from =
and treat it as such. We all know about farmers past warnings now dont =
we? So lets all let Farmer blow off more steam now for a few days and =
then we can all go back to enjoying meteorites without one dealer =
offering some vague warnings about some well known competator who is =
trashing Farmers prices (Yet again - the same type of attack on another =
dealer as we have all herd many times before and must be yawning about =
right now).=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well Dean, this is the last straw, an =
absolutely=20
unprovoked attack by you. Not once did I mention your name, or say =
anything=20
concerning you. I guess you are drunk in Peru again. I have complied =
with all=20
list rules for some time now, and plan too, you it seems, will not. =
Since Mr.=20
Casper and Joel Warren did the same thing and were removed from the =
list, it=20
seems that now it is time for you to go. The rules apply to all of us, =
if I do=20
and attack then I should be kicked off. This is uncalled for, and you =
now need=20
to be kicked off according to the rules of the meteorite mailing list.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dean, seek help, you need it clearly, =
AA is a=20
good start. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh yeah, did anyone on this list get a =
piece of=20
Bensour with the slightest sign of water? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dean, you keep putting your foot =
further and=20
further into your mouth. No one believes your spew any more. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good Bye</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Ddeanbessey_at_hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:deanbessey_at_hotmail.com">dean=20
  bessey</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 08, 2002 =
7:46=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list]=20
  Wow....</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P>> I know Habbibi well, watch out! Interesting man.<BR>> Mike=20
  =
Farmer<BR>></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJEC=
T=3DUNSUBSCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJ=
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EORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP></P>
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<P><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP><MA=
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ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>Geez=20
  farmer. Is there anybody in Morocco that you are not enemies with. =
Maybe you=20
  should do what everybody else does and learn to deal with the nomads =
directly.=20
  Whats it now, 17 trips - and you still cant get anybody to show you =
material=20
  before anybody else. You still cant get first look at anything. Some =
people=20
  are just slow learners I guess. Maybe after 6o trips you will get on =
good=20
  terms with=20
  =
somebody.</MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DU=
NSUBSCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3D=
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-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP></P>
  =
<P><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP><MA=
ILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST@M=
ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>But=20
  I guess that you are on such bad terms with anybody who speaks the =
same=20
  language as the nomads that dealing directly with them is no longer an =
option=20
  for=20
  =
you.</MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBS=
CRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBS=
CRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIS=
T-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP></P>
  =
<P><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP><MA=
ILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST@M=
ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>Crawl=20
  back into your hole farmer and continue selling your overpriced falls =
for=20
  double what anybody else charges and leave the real dealing to the big =
boys=20
  who know what they are doing and who can deal on a level that dont get =

  everybody mad at you. Maybe you can even talk John Gwillian into =
looking=20
  around Tucsons Red Light district next Tucson. You could offer him 4 =
grams for=20
  free of your next HUGE overpriced fall and he will be eating out of =
your hand=20
  like a baby. He dont cost much. Hell, maybe he could make enough money =
to pay=20
  the mortgage on your house. Thats not going to happen if you try and =
compete=20
  with Habibi. Habibi is legit and is most likely not selling fake =
stuff.=20
  =
</MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIB=
E></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIB=
E></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-RE=
QUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP></P>
  =
<P><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP><MA=
ILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST@M=
ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>Habibi=20
  dont have to be a con artist. Unlike you, Habibi has a very good =
working=20
  relationship directly with certain nomads and dont have to pay a =
middleman in=20
  Erfoud for his=20
  =
stuff.   </MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.=
COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRA=
L.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM></=
MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP></P>
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<P><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP><MA=
ILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST@M=
ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>Now=20
  go cry some more farmer. Just dont get more water on your Bensour. It =
got wet=20
  enough sitting around Algeria for a month during the=20
  =
rain.</MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUB=
SCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUB=
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ST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP></P>
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<P><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP><MA=
ILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST@M=
ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>Chao</MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQU=
EST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-RE=
QUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST@ME=
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ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>DEAN</MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQU=
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UBJECT=3DHELP></P>
  =
<P><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP><MA=
ILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST@M=
ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>PS:</MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUE=
ST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQ=
UEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST@MET=
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<P><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP><MA=
ILTO:METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST@M=
ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>For=20
  the record I dont know Habibi well. I know that he has lots of stuff =
but I=20
  dont buy from him so I cant vouch good or bad about Habibi from =
personal=20
  experience. Its not that I wont if he gave me a good offer. Its just =
that=20
  unlike farmer, I usually cut out the middlemen in my NWA buys. Thats =
why=20
  Farmer gets pissed off with me when I sell stuff for less than he =
does. Also=20
  unlike Farmer, I also dont feel a need to run down and tell people =
that my=20
  competators are people that you should watch out for. But I guess that =
Farmer=20
  and Habibi are not buying competators. By buying directly from the =
nomads I=20
  might be Habibis competator but since Farmer dont deal directly with =
the=20
  nomads Farmer and Habibi are are not buying=20
  =
competators.</MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3D=
UNSUBSCRIBE></MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3D=
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  =
<P><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DHELP><MA=
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ETEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DSUBSCRIBE><MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_ME=
TEORITECENTRAL.COM?SUBJECT=3DUNSUBSCRIBE>In=20
  fact the only reason that Farmer is warning you all about Habibi is =
because=20
  Habibi is selling stuff for a lot less than Farmer lists things at. =
That got=20
  Farmer bitching at Casper some years back because Casper sold stuff =
for less=20
  than him - therby depriving Farmer of an ability to charge more. And =
it got=20
  him pissed off with me about selling CR2 for $23.50 when the going =
rate was=20
  $60 (Or so farmer wanted it to be). Not that Habibi is selling for $10 =
I guess=20
  that I wont get $23.50 in the near future for mine but I wont use that =
as an=20
  excuse to warn you to not pay Habibi less than half what I am selling =
things=20
  for. If he wants to undercut my price that his option. I can handle =
the=20
  competation. I would take any warning that farmer makes about another=20
  meteorite competator with a gran of salt. At least realize where the =
warning=20
  is coming from and treat it as such. We all know about farmers past =
warnings=20
  now dont we? So lets all let Farmer blow off more steam now for a few =
days and=20
  then we can all go back to enjoying meteorites without one dealer =
offering=20
  some vague warnings about some well known competator who is trashing =
Farmers=20
  prices (Yet again - the same type of attack on another dealer as we =
have all=20
  herd many times before and must be yawning about=20
  =
right now). </MAILTO:METEORITE-LIST-REQUEST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.CO=
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