[meteorite-list] Meteorite Wrong from Washington-disinformation?

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From: Kevin Fly Hill <khill_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:33 2004
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Educating the press is like singing to a pig -- It wastes your time and =
only irritates the pig. Granted when someone of the media ilk wants to =
know more great, but most of them TV (especially), radio and print want =
to get a story out (on WHATEVER) and get on with the next thing on their =
list. I guess they figure schools and universities are for education =
and they are there for entertainment. We like to educate, because that =
is was we like to do and it does help. Just don't expect a lot of =
response to your efforts at least on behalf of the press. A bit cynical =
but that has been my experience in dealing with the media over astronomy =
issues. If you want to prove my point, work up a "press release", =
invite the local media folks to a class, hell, serve refreshments and =
see how many show up. If I'm wrong, you get to do your deal for a mess =
of media types, instead of hunting them down one-by-one.

From: Howard Wu=20
  To: Sharkkb8_at_aol.com ; markf@ssl.gb.com ; =
meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:48 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Wrong from =
Washington-disinformation?

  I recall an Andy Warhol story where he tells that he deliberately gave =
different biographical information about himself to different reporters =
so when he met people at New York social parties he would know what =
magazines they read. :<)

  However, I agree ethically that we should not be the source of =
disinformation and support public education. Also knowledge may lead to =
more real finds. For example, I didn't know till I became involved in =
collecting that meteors stop "burning" high in the atmosphere before =
dropping in a terminal velocity decent.=20

  Howard Wu

  Sharkkb8_at_aol.com wrote:

      There is also a case for NOT educating the press on the exact ins =
and outs of meteorite falls, phrases like =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=CB=9CI burnt =
my hands=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2 =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=CB=9Cit set fire to my =
garden etc=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2, are excellent ways of distinguishing =
false falls from potentially genuine ones, as soon as all the press =
reports sound believable, we will be over whelmed with reports that =
would end up wasting all our time.

    Wait a minute. Stepping back from it a bit, I find it hard to =
believe there's a compelling reason for WANTING the press to report =
falsehoods as truth, no matter what the subject matter of the story. =
If we can seriously justify allowing (much less wanting) the press to =
lie because we've decided that it helps meteorite-hobbysits distinguish =
between likely reports and unlikely ones, it becomes pretty easy for =
ANYONE to justify fraud in the press, for any and all convenient reasons =
that may come along. Surely that's a direction we want to head AWAY =
from, not toward....and yes, even if it "ends up wasting our time".

           Gregory=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Educating the press is like singing to =
a pig -- It=20
wastes your time and only irritates the pig.  Granted when =
some<FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>one of the media ilk wants to know =
more great, but=20
most of them TV (especially), radio and print want to get a story out =
(on=20
WHATEVER) and get on with the next thing on their list.  I guess =
they=20
figure schools and universities are for education and they are there for =

entertainment.  We like to educate, because that is was we like to =
do and=20
it does help.  Just don't expect a lot of response to your efforts =
at least=20
on behalf of the press.  A bit cynical but that has been my =
experience in=20
dealing with the media over astronomy issues.  If you want to prove =
my=20
point, work up a "press release", invite the local media folks to a =
class, hell,=20
serve refreshments and see how many show up.  If I'm wrong, you get =
to do=20
your deal for a mess of media types, instead of hunting them down=20
one-by-one.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dfreewu2000_at_yahoo.com=20
href=3D"mailto:freewu2000_at_yahoo.com">Howard Wu</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3DSharkkb8_at_aol.com =

  href=3D"mailto:Sharkkb8_at_aol.com">Sharkkb8@aol.com</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dmarkf_at_ssl.gb.com =
href=3D"mailto:markf_at_ssl.gb.com">markf@ssl.gb.com</A> ;=20
  <A title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 14, 2003 =
1:48=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] =
Meteorite Wrong=20
  from Washington-disinformation?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I recall an Andy Warhol story where he tells that he deliberately =
gave=20
  different biographical information about himself to different =
reporters so=20
  when he met people at New York social parties he would know what =
magazines=20
  they read. :<)</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>However, I agree ethically that we should not be the source of=20
  disinformation and support public education. Also knowledge may lead =
to more=20
  real finds. For example, I didn't know till I became involved in=20
  collecting that meteors stop "burning" high in the atmosphere=20
  before dropping in a terminal velocity decent. </DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>Howard Wu<BR><BR><B><I>Sharkkb8_at_aol.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
  <DIV>
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#ffffff"=20
      face=3DArial color=3D#000080 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">There =
is also a case=20
      for NOT educating the press on the exact ins and outs of meteorite =
falls,=20
      phrases like =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=CB=9CI burnt my =
hands=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2  =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=CB=9Cit set fire to =
my garden=20
      etc=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2, are excellent ways of distinguishing =
false falls from potentially=20
      genuine ones, as soon as all the press reports sound believable, =
we will=20
      be over whelmed with reports that would end up wasting all our=20
    time.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 =
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20
    face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>Wait =
a minute. =20
    Stepping back from it a bit, I find it hard to believe there's a =
compelling=20
    reason for WANTING the press to report falsehoods as truth, no =
matter what=20
    the subject matter of the story.   If we can seriously =
justify=20
    allowing (much less wanting) the press to lie because we've decided =
that it=20
    helps meteorite-hobbysits distinguish between likely reports and =
unlikely=20
    ones, it becomes pretty easy for ANYONE to justify fraud in the =
press, for=20
    any and all convenient reasons that may come along.  Surely =
that's a=20
    direction we want to head AWAY from, not toward....and yes, even if =
it "ends=20
    up wasting our time".<BR><BR>       =
Gregory=20
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