[meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions.

From: Michel Franco <michel_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:17:44 2004
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TKS Jim

All your ansewer makes sense.=20



 <Should be obvious to the casual observer or the term "flight marked" =
should be used. >

This can be a real rule and easy for all !

The term flight marked is not often used, am I right? I will use it now. =


Best regards=20

Michel FRANCO
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jim Strope=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions.


  My opinion on your points...........

  A - I would term the mere presence of flow lines as saying that the =
meteorite was "flight marked" but not necessarily Oriented.

  B - I don't think that the absence of fusion crust would mean that a =
specimen could not be Oriented. An example would be the famous "King of =
Irons" Gibeon. In my opinion, Orientation refers to shape also.

  C- Yes, I believe that the elongation of regmaglypts is a sign of =
possible orientation. When this is combined with a flat bottom with a =
roll over rim the signs of Orientation are even more convincing.

  I think the real test of orientation is when you can look at the piece =
and actually visualize the direction of flight. I have seen many photos =
on ebay described as oriented where I ask myself - "Oriented in what =
direction?"

  Orientation should be obvious to the casual observer or the term =
"flight marked" should be used.

  Best Wishes to all..............

  Jim Strope
  421 Fourth Street
  Glen Dale, WV 26038

  Catch a Falling Star Meteorites
  http://www.catchafallingstar.com

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Michel Franco=20
    To: Michael Farmer ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:24 AM
    Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Note on meteorite descriptions.


    Michael, Jim, Matteo, list,

    This is an interesting thread.=20

    I think it should be developped. And I have questions for experts =
like you guys.=20
    A: Does the presence of some flow lines is enough to say that a =
meteorite is oriented ?
    B. Does a meteorite with conical shape ( approx similar to Bob Haag =
Venus cone ) but without any crust ( due to a long stay on earth surface =
before find) can be said oriented .
    C: When thumbprints have a particular elliptical shape with a =
depressed side and a rim on the other side, is it a sign of =
orientation.?=20

    Best regards

    Michel FRANCO
    Caillou Noir

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TKS Jim</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All your ansewer makes sense. =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;&lt;Should be obvious to the casual observer or the term =
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marked" should be used. &gt;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This can be a real rule and easy for all =
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The term flight marked is not often =
used, am I=20
right? I will use it now. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michel FRANCO</FONT></DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djim_at_catchafallingstar.com =
href=3D"mailto:jim_at_catchafallingstar.com">Jim=20
  Strope</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 11, =
2003 1:13=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Note on=20
  meteorite descriptions.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>My opinion on your points...........</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>A -&nbsp; I would term the mere presence of flow lines as saying =
that the=20
  meteorite was "flight marked" but not necessarily Oriented.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>B - I don't think that the absence of fusion crust would mean =
that a=20
  specimen could not be Oriented.&nbsp; An example would be the famous =
"King of=20
  Irons" Gibeon.&nbsp; In my opinion, Orientation refers to shape =
also.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>C- Yes, I believe that the elongation of regmaglypts is a sign of =

  possible orientation.&nbsp; When this is combined with a flat bottom =
with a=20
  roll over rim the signs of Orientation are even more convincing.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I think the real test of orientation is when you can look at the =
piece=20
  and actually visualize the direction of flight.&nbsp; I have seen many =
photos=20
  on ebay described as oriented where I ask myself - "Oriented in what=20
  direction?"</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Orientation should be obvious to the casual observer or the term =
"flight=20
  marked" should be used.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Best Wishes to all..............</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Jim Strope<BR>421 Fourth Street<BR>Glen Dale, WV&nbsp; =
26038</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Catch a Falling Star Meteorites<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.catchafallingstar.com">http://www.catchafallingstar.co=
m</A><BR></DIV>
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dmichel_at_caillou-noir.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:michel_at_caillou-noir.com">Michel Franco</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Dmeteoritehunter_at_comcast.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net">Michael Farmer</A> ; <A=20
    title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 11, =
2003 3:24=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Note on=20
    meteorite descriptions.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michael, Jim, Matteo, =
list,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is an interesting thread. =
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think it should be =
developped.&nbsp;And I=20
    have questions for experts like you guys. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A: Does the presence of some flow =
lines is=20
    enough to say that a meteorite is oriented ?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>B. Does a meteorite with conical =
shape ( approx=20
    similar to Bob Haag Venus cone ) but without any crust ( due to a =
long stay=20
    on earth surface before find) can be said oriented .</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>C:&nbsp;&nbsp; When =
thumbprints&nbsp; have a=20
    particular elliptical shape&nbsp; with a depressed side and a rim on =
the=20
    other side, is it a sign&nbsp;of orientation.? </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michel FRANCO</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Caillou Noir</FONT></DIV>
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