[meteorite-list] First report of a New Fall!

From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:18:30 2004
Message-ID: <016101c2dc36$41dad3c0$ba06e70c_at_attbi.com>

Hello List,

In response to a couple of emails and postings I will address a few

First of all the question was brought up about the freshness of the new fall
and if it might be made up or be from Northwest Africa. I need to make a
correction the name Thuathe has not been voted on yet by the Nomenclature
Committee but has been submitted, therefor the name is provisional.

Most specimens are very fresh looking with a few that were stained from
being exposed to the moist ground. Unlike Northwest Africa, Thuathe fell
high on a plateau where it actually snows so this witnessed fall was
introduced to different elements. The crusts on H type chondrites are
generally not as shiny as LL crusts. Thuathe was observed by thousands of
witnesses and was documented by a nearby university. The strewn field is
well documented and was plotted by the same university. We will include six
pages of documents in support of this new fall with any sample purchased.
The coordinates are clearly addressed in this document if anybody has the
desire to go there themselves and confirm this fall really exists. Other
competitive teams are there now confirming the reality of this new fall.
For the person who questioned the authenticity of this find the following
statement might apply:

If you are not willing to live on the edge and go check out this new find
yourself you are taking up too much real-estate.

Somebody asked the status of Bensour. The official documents were finally
sent to the Nom Com group for vote about a month ago. A year is not an
unreasonable amount of time when it is taking two years for many just to get
classifications. The delays were caused by O-isotope testing, fall date
issues and witness statements. Remember, at first the Nom Com questioned
the Bensour fall too which was the wise thing to do.

All the best,


----- Original Message -----
From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2000_at_yahoo.it>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] First report of a New Fall!

> Hello all
> I have see the photo and is many strange this pieces
> not have a fresh crust - type Bensour or Hadeja - if
> is fall few months ago, is many similar to normaly NWA
> finds in desert. When exit the report of the
> Met.Society? Is available a isotope text? Sorry for my
> suspect but in this months the moroccan persons and
> similar in the zone they are wanting to they sell some
> meteorites like falls of recent. However I have asked
> a piece of 10 gr. to observe better.
> Regards
> Matteo
> --- Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_attbi.com> wrote:
> > Dear List Members,
> >
> > We Would like to introduce a new fall.
> >
> > New meteorite Thuathe, Lesotho fell on July 21, 2002
> >
> >
> > Incredibly this meteorite fell on the same day as
> > Kilabo. About 27 kilograms is projected to be the
> > Total Known Weight with about 19 kilograms recovered
> > so far. Stones varying in size from 2 grams up to
> > the main mass weight of 2,387 grams have been
> > recovered. It was reported to the Meteoritical
> > Society and the official name of Thuathe has been
> > assigned. It is an H4 ordinary chondrite with a not
> > so ordinary story. We will report more eye witness
> > accounts as they come in.
> >
> > Malineo Mantsoe of IIa Sofonia describes her
> > experience: When the loud noise occurred overhead,
> > she ran to the back of her dwelling expecting to see
> > a thunderstorm, but there was none. She came to the
> > front, just in time to hear wheeee-bang as a stone
> > fell into her cooking area just in front of her,
> > cracking one of her water carriers. No villager
> > could have thrown a stone so fast in daylight, and
> > it must have been a truly powerful thokolost to have
> > done such a thing in broad daylight! Fortunately she
> > was prepared for such occasions, because she had a
> > supply of holy water blessed in church. She
> > sprinkled it on the stone and elsewhere around her
> > cooking area and house, and it worked! No more
> > stones fell.
> >
> > In other villages the locals were disgusted that
> > black stones were falling out of the sky because one
> > almost hit somebody in Ha Motloang. They picked up
> > the stones and threw them as far away as they could
> > to get them out of their villages. Once they
> > overcame their superstitions regarding this
> > meteorite and realized they were worth something,
> > hundreds began to search for them.
> >
> > What you see here is the first batch to reach the
> > civilized world. We are expecting the bulk of the
> > fall, another 12 kilograms to reach us this week.
> > The well-defined strewn field has been scoured for
> > months now so we expect only another 2 to 4
> > kilograms will show up after this. After one of our
> > partners, thinking that all the material had been
> > recovered (not possible) spoke about this fall in
> > Tucson the word was out. Now a three-person team
> > arrived yesterday from Tucson and is asking about
> > the stones. Now there is a race on to see who can
> > recover the most of this new fall. Good luck to the
> > other teams and may we all win!
> >
> > The samples pictured below are priced as follows:
> >
> > 10-50 grams $7.50 per gram
> >
> > 51-200 grams $7.00 per gram
> >
> > 201-500 grams $6.50 per gram
> >
> > over 500 grams $6.00 per gram
> >
> > Her is a link to available specimens:
> >
> > http://www.lunarrock.com/thuathe/thuathe.jpg
> >
> > Please email us and let us know if any of these are
> > of interest.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Adam and Greg Hupe
> >
> > The Hupe Collection
> >
> > IMCA 2185
> >
> >
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