[meteorite-list] Re: eBay Likes and Dislikes

From: Howard Wu <freewu2000_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:21:04 2004
Message-ID: <20030714182539.95490.qmail_at_web9305.mail.yahoo.com>

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It is ok not liking auctions as a business format. Or is it ebay in particular your objecting to?
 
Howard Wu

Steve Schoner <steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
My point, if any, Mike, is that in the case where I
bought on Ebay (which I hate) I had no other choice.
I have not seen for any of the items the so called
"Buy Now" option, and in each and every case where I
did buy, which is certainly less than a dozen small
items, I e-mailed the seller to find out if they would
take it off auction so that we could work out a
"reasonable" deal.

I only bought-bid via E-bay (which I hate), because
they wanted their "auction" to progress to conclusion.

But in most if not all of the less than dozen cases
where I bid, I made the initial contact to make a
purchase off line. And in at least one of these
purchases, one seller was so kind as to offer me a
nice tiny slice of DAG476, after the one that sold at
Ebay to another, for a price to me for much less than
what that piece went for. So I appreciate that.

I will not sell any meteorites at Ebay (which I
hate)... EVER.

Besides, I am weary of the whole argument. I don't
argue very well now, after my brain injury, but my
opinion remains the same.

And you are right, the arument is lame.

END OF STORY

Steve Schoner/ams


--- Michael Farmer wrote:
> so Steve, what is your point? You buy there but dont
> SELL there? That makes
> everything ok.
> Ebay brought you those items that you wanted so
> badly that you had to
> register and bid on them.
> Steve, I like you but your argument is about as lame
> as a dead cat.
> We are all entitled to like or hate anything, but
> you brought it up and
> since you can't seem to find a solid argument for
> your side, just let it go
> and forget it.
> Ebay has brough tme literally hundreds upon hundreds
> of new customers, many
> are among the largest meteorite collectors out there
> now.
> Kudos to Ebay.
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Schoner"
> To: "Michael Farmer" ;
>
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: eBay Likes and
> Dislikes
>
>
> > Yes Mike,
> >
> > I have bought a few very select meteorites there,
> some
> > thin sections three maybe four in fact, and some
> > select tiny pieces for making thin sections.
> >
> > BUT YOU WILL NOTICE...
> >
> > I have never sold any meteorites there.
> >
> > And when I make an offer on a slide I set in my
> mind
> > how much I want it and is as far as I go. I
> really
> > hate the Ebay auction hype, and won't get caught
> up in
> > it.
> >
> > BTW:
> >
> > I HATE EBAY ;->
> >
> > Steve Schoner.ams
> > END OF STORY
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Michael Farmer wrote:
> > > Steve, that is the dumbest thing that I have
> ever
> > > heard. You don't like
> > > meteorites being sold there? You are being a
> > > hypocrite now. You have bought
> > > meteorites on ebay.
> > > This discussion is really stupid, so what if one
> > > person doesn't like ebay.
> > > Millions of people do.
> > > End of story.
> > > Mike Farmer
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Schoner"
> > > To:
> > > Cc:
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:49 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: eBay Likes and
> > > Dislikes
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Sharkkb8_at_aol.com wrote:
> > > > > steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > When it comes to my opinion of E-bay, my
> mind
> > > > > cannot
> > > > > > be changed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I made up my mind when E-bay first
> appeared,
> > > and
> > > > > my
> > > > > > opinon today remains the same
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, you've made that crystal clear. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > The listees who have posted that they like
> ebay,
> > > > > have all offered reasons for
> > > > > feeling that way. Do you have any reasons
> for
> > > your
> > > > > opposing opinion?
> > > > > Certainly there's no value in provoking a
> petty
> > > > > argument, that's not helpful for
> > > > > anyone. But with so many collectors,
> dealers,
> > > > > experts, novices, and the
> > > > > meteorite "hobby" itself seemingly getting
> so
> > > much
> > > > > visibility and benefit from ebay, I
> > > > > suspect I'm not alone in wondering what the
> > > other
> > > > > side of the coin might
> > > > > possibly be, that makes you not just
> indifferent
> > > to
> > > > > it, but so vehemently opposed.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gregory
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gregory,
> > > >
> > > > No need for me to rehash it now, for it is all
> in
> > > the
> > > > archives, how many years back, I cannot
> remember,
> > > > where I hashed out my opinion about Ebay then.
> > > >
> > > > I dislike Ebay, hate the meteorite sales there
> in
> > > > fact.
> > > >
> > > > And if the archives don't explain it, I won't
> > > explain
> > > > it now.
> > > >
> > > > Someday, I might sell some items there, but
> > > certainly
> > > > never a meteorite.
> > > >
> > > > I'll just leave it at that.
> > > >
> > > > Steve Schoner/ams
> > > >
> > > >
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<DIV>It is ok not liking auctions as a business format. Or is it ebay in particular your objecting&nbsp;&nbsp;to?</DIV>
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<DIV>Howard Wu<BR><BR><B><I>Steve Schoner &lt;steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">My point, if any, Mike, is that in the case where I<BR>bought on Ebay (which I hate) I had no other choice. <BR>I have not seen for any of the items the so called<BR>"Buy Now" option, and in each and every case where I<BR>did buy, which is certainly less than a dozen small<BR>items, I e-mailed the seller to find out if they would<BR>take it off auction so that we could work out a<BR>"reasonable" deal.<BR><BR>I only bought-bid via E-bay (which I hate), because<BR>they wanted their "auction" to progress to conclusion.<BR><BR>But in most if not all of the less than dozen cases<BR>where I bid, I made the initial contact to make a<BR>purchase off line. And in at least one of these<BR>purchases, one seller was so kind as to offer me a<BR>nice tiny slice of DAG476, after the one that sold at<BR>Ebay to another, for a price to me for much less than<BR>what that piece went for. So I appreciate
 that.<BR><BR>I will not sell any meteorites at Ebay (which I<BR>hate)... EVER.<BR><BR>Besides, I am weary of the whole argument. I don't<BR>argue very well now, after my brain injury, but my<BR>opinion remains the same.<BR><BR>And you are right, the arument is lame.<BR><BR>END OF STORY<BR><BR>Steve Schoner/ams<BR><BR><BR>--- Michael Farmer <FARMERM_at_CONCENTRIC.NET>wrote:<BR>&gt; so Steve, what is your point? You buy there but dont<BR>&gt; SELL there? That makes<BR>&gt; everything ok.<BR>&gt; Ebay brought you those items that you wanted so<BR>&gt; badly that you had to<BR>&gt; register and bid on them.<BR>&gt; Steve, I like you but your argument is about as lame<BR>&gt; as a dead cat.<BR>&gt; We are all entitled to like or hate anything, but<BR>&gt; you brought it up and<BR>&gt; since you can't seem to find a solid argument for<BR>&gt; your side, just let it go<BR>&gt; and forget it.<BR>&gt; Ebay has brough tme literally hundreds upon hundreds<BR>&gt; of new customers, many<BR>&gt;
 are among the largest meteorite collectors out there<BR>&gt; now.<BR>&gt; Kudos to Ebay.<BR>&gt; Mike Farmer<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: "Steve Schoner" <STEVE_SCHONER_at_YAHOO.COM><BR>&gt; To: "Michael Farmer" <FARMERM@CONCENTRIC.NET>;<BR>&gt; <SHARKKB8@AOL.COM><BR>&gt; Cc: <METEORITE-LIST@METEORITECENTRAL.COM><BR>&gt; Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:38 PM<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: eBay Likes and<BR>&gt; Dislikes<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Yes Mike,<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I have bought a few very select meteorites there,<BR>&gt; some<BR>&gt; &gt; thin sections three maybe four in fact, and some<BR>&gt; &gt; select tiny pieces for making thin sections.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; BUT YOU WILL NOTICE...<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I have never sold any meteorites there.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; And when I make an offer on a slide I set in my<BR>&gt; mind<BR>&gt; &gt; how much I want it and is as far as I go. I<BR>&gt; really<BR>&gt; &gt; hate
 the Ebay auction hype, and won't get caught<BR>&gt; up in<BR>&gt; &gt; it.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; BTW:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I HATE EBAY ;-&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Steve Schoner.ams<BR>&gt; &gt; END OF STORY<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; --- Michael Farmer <FARMERM_at_CONCENTRIC.NET>wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Steve, that is the dumbest thing that I have<BR>&gt; ever<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; heard. You don't like<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; meteorites being sold there? You are being a<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; hypocrite now. You have bought<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; meteorites on ebay.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; This discussion is really stupid, so what if one<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; person doesn't like ebay.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Millions of people do.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; End of story.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Mike Farmer<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From: "Steve Schoner" <STEVE_SCHONER@YAHOO.COM><BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; To: <SHARKKB8@AOL.COM><BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Cc:
 <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM><BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:49 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: eBay Likes and<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Dislikes<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; --- Sharkkb8@aol.com wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; steve_schoner@yahoo.com writes:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; When it comes to my opinion of E-bay, my<BR>&gt; mind<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cannot<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; be changed.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I made up my mind when E-bay first<BR>&gt; appeared,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; and<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; my<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; opinon today remains the same<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Yes, you've made that crystal clear. ;-)<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The listees who have posted that they like<BR>&gt;
 ebay,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; have all offered reasons for<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; feeling that way. Do you have any reasons<BR>&gt; for<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; your<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; opposing opinion?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Certainly there's no value in provoking a<BR>&gt; petty<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; argument, that's not helpful for<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; anyone. But with so many collectors,<BR>&gt; dealers,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; experts, novices, and the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; meteorite "hobby" itself seemingly getting<BR>&gt; so<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; much<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; visibility and benefit from ebay, I<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; suspect I'm not alone in wondering what the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; other<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; side of the coin might<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; possibly be, that makes you not just<BR>&gt; indifferent<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; to<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; it, but so vehemently opposed.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
 &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Gregory<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Gregory,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; No need for me to rehash it now, for it is all<BR>&gt; in<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; archives, how many years back, I cannot<BR>&gt; remember,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; where I hashed out my opinion about Ebay then.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I dislike Ebay, hate the meteorite sales there<BR>&gt; in<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; fact.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; And if the archives don't explain it, I won't<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; explain<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; it now.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Someday, I might sell some items there, but<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; certainly<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; never a meteorite.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I'll just leave it at that.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
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