Fw: [meteorite-list] Pitino, Jeff Grossman

From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:43 2004
Message-ID: <004601c32082$2107c320$ef30ef42_at_computer>

Below is a message I just recieved regarding the Pitino controversy that was
unjustly started by Mr Hupe. It shows that I did not "lie" to the
meteoritical society. Adam, I quote your email to this list "Never question
something that we have submitted because we are always
real. NWA 968 is real unlike your Pitino stone. Everything we have
submitted is legitimate. The statement below will prove that you lied
to the Meteoritical Society." Actually Dr Jones in the email below just
"proved" that I did not do what you accused me of Adam Hupe.
      Dr Jones simply made a slight error in the writeup. Of course errors
happen every day, and should be questioned, but a terrible accusation was
made regarding that error. I am glad to have it cleared up here and now.
Mike Farmer
Thanks to Dr Jeff Grossman and Dr Rhian Jones for their assistance in this
matter.
Now if only Ebay would get their problem solved.........
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rhian Jones" <rjones_at_unm.edu>
To: "Jeff Grossman" <jgrossman_at_usgs.gov>; "Michael Farmer"
<farmerm_at_concentric.net>
Cc: "sara Russell" <sarr_at_nhm.ac.uk>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pitino, Jeff Grossman


> Mike, Jeff, Sara
> I'm sorry that I got the information wrong. I had misinterpreted the
> information I was given by Marina Ivanova which I now realise did not
> actually state who found it.
> Rhian.
>
> --On Sunday, May 18, 2003 3:08 PM -0400 Jeff Grossman <jgrossman_at_usgs.gov>
> wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > I don't know what was submitted. Perhaps Rhian can tell you. We can
> > change the finder. Do you know who it was, or should it read
> > "anonymous"?
> >
> > We'll either change the galley proofs, or if this is not possible, we'll
> > publish an erratum in MB88. Sara can let you know which it will be.
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > At 10:51 AM 5/18/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > Hello all, just a note about the new Pitino meteorite, and a request for
> > data from Dr. Jeff Grossman. This meteorite was found by meteorite
> > hunters searching for Campo del Cielo. Hans acquired it and thought that
> > it was another Campo silicate nodule. He sent a fragment to Russia to be
> > looked at. Later he brought it to the Denver show last September. He
> > showed me and I knew it was a new meteorite, he was happy, I was happy,
> > and I bought it and showed everyone at Denver. Since Serge in Moscow was
> > already having it analyzed, I gave him a slice off of it for the museum
> > there, andVernadsky completed the analysis and submitted the data to the
> > Meteoritical Society. I never saw the data they submitted until the
> > bulletin was published last week. It seems that there is simply a table
> > form, not a full story like many meteorites. In that table, I am listed
> > as the finder. I never noticed that, just thinking that I was listed as
> > the owner, which I am. I need Dr Grossman to clear this up, and let us
> > know what was submitted to the Society. If I am listed in the submission
> > as the finder, then that is incorrect, if not, then they simply made a
> > mistake in publishing the bulletin. Either way, it can be corrected
very
> > simply.
> > I have never been to Campo del Cielo, and likely never will go there.
> > Like I said last week, I have never found my own new meteorite yet, I
> > have found hundreds of pieces of meteorites, all from known
strewnfields.
> > Ill list below my finds.
> > Canyon Diablo
> > Gold Basin
> > Holbrook
> > Odessa
> > Portales Valley
> > Ourique
> > Monturaqui
> > Imilac
> > Park Forest
> > I think that is all, I might have left something out.
> > Anyway, this is a simple matter.
> > Thansk
> > Mike Farmer
> > PS, Pitino is being cut right now by Marlin Cilz and I will have it for
> > sale in a couple weeks when it is finished.
> >
> >
> > Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman
> > Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society)
> > US Geological Survey
> > 954 National Center
> > Reston, VA 20192, USA
> > Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383
> >
>
>
>
> Dr. Rhian Jones
> Institute of Meteoritics
> MSC03 2050
> 1 University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque
> NM 87131-0001
>
> Phone: 505-277-1643
> Fax: 505-277-3577
> e-mail: rjones_at_unm.edu
>
>
Received on Thu 22 May 2003 12:49:34 PM PDT