[meteorite-list] Re: Barringer Meteor $$$$

From: mafer <mafer_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:25:44 2004
Message-ID: <009f01c321ab$5c9070c0$6501a8c0_at_vs.shawcable.net>

Actually, The Sierra Club started many years ago in Calif. ask any rancher
in Calif how they feel about that group.
----- Original Message -----
From: RONALD S. REIL <rreil1_at_mindspring.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Barringer Meteor $$$$


> I have been lurking for some time. I am Ron Reil, and a meteor hunter and
> somewhat of a collector. I doubt there isn't anyone on this list who
doesn't
> know more about meteorites than me, but I am working on that. :-)
>
> I just wanted to correct the comment below by Steve about the
environmental
> group outbidding the cattle ranch interests. It is not the first time this
> has happened. In fact it has been going on for quite some time here in
> Idaho. This move started quite some time back, went in court because the
BLM
> tossed out the environmentalists winning bid, but they ended up winning
when
> the court found in their favor. The precedent was set here in Idaho, and
> tested here in court. I think that Steve is correct about one thing, there
> will be more and more of this in the future.
>
> Yours,
>
> Ron Reil
>
>
> Golden Age Forge
> http://www.reil1.net/gallery.shtml
> E-Mail: ron_at_reil1.net
> Boise, Idaho
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Schoner" <steve_schoner_at_yahoo.com>
> To: "Bob Martino" <martino.6_at_osu.edu>;
<meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Barringer Meteor $$$$
>
>
> > Now,
> >
> > Here is something that is very interesting...
> >
> > Grazing rights are issued by the AZ BLM to Bar-T-Bar
> > aka Meteor Crater Enterprises for their cattle
> > ranching.
> >
> > These historically have been bid at very, very low
> > rates.
> >
> > Well, I just saw this in the local paper:
> >
> > http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=66489
> >
> > What this environmental group is doing is outbidding
> > the cattle ranchers for a potential of 8 million acres
> > of land now having been abused for over 100 years by
> > over grazing.
> >
> > This case is a first, and most likely will result in
> > many such actions.
> >
> > Now, the huge high desert verandas of the Coconino
> > Plateau need to come to their attention. This place
> > is the home to multitudes of Elk and Antelope heards
> > as well as lesser animals, often put out by cattle
> > ranching.
> >
> > Now... wouldn't that be great if the ranches that
> > abuse the claims to mineral rights on AZBLM trust
> > lands around Meteor Crater, and these lands are used
> > to generate funds for AZ Schools, were outbid by
> > environmental agnencies that had a better handle with
> > regards to proper land use and permits?
> >
> > The State lands around Meteor Crater are AZBLM School
> > trust lands, and to secure them for true environmental
> > reserves... if at all possible would be indeed a real
> > achievement.
> >
> > Then us serious meteorite collectors can then ask the
> > new owners of grazing rights for permits.
> >
> > And who knows...
> >
> > We might just get some respect, and Arizona State some
> > money for their schools.
> >
> > Steve Schoner
> > http://www.geocities.com/meteorite_identification
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Bob Martino <martino.6_at_osu.edu> wrote:
> > > All,
> > >
> > > Apparently I was mistaken in my belief that Dr.
> > > Nininger was collecting
> > > meteorites without permission. Thank you to those
> > > who pointed out my error.
> > > Now I feel better, actually, since my mistaken
> > > belief that the good Doctor
> > > was a poacher marred my otherwise positive thoughts
> > > about him.
> > >
> > > Still, I stand by my other statements. Sure, Meteor
> > > Crater would make a KICK
> > > ASS National Monument, if it were given the
> > > necessary resources. But since
> > > the NPS doesn't have the resources but MCE does, I
> > > say leave well enough
> > > alone for now. And I think you do have to give MCE
> > > some credit. It may be a
> > > "tourist trap," but it's the classiest one I've ever
> > > seen.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, I for one would LOVE to come along on
> > > a "Rabbit Hunt" out that
> > > way sometime. Anyone feel like organizing?
> > >
> > > "Shhhhhhh... Be vewy, vewr qwiet... I'm hunting
> > > 'wabbits'!
> > > hehehehehehehehehe!"
> > > "Wabbit Season!"
> > > "Meteowite Season!"
> > > "Wabbit Season!"
> > > "Meteowite Season!"
> > > "Wabbit Season!"
> > > "Meteowite Season!"
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ
> > >
> > > Can you really name a star? Read the Truth!
> > > http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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