[meteorite-list] Meteor crater?

From: Roman Nakonechny <uraninut239__at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:53 2004
Message-ID: <Law9-F299HDkqVc9kh5000141d7_at_hotmail.com>

Thanks Ron. I never read any books on Meteor Crater, Az. with any sort of
useful, scientifically oriented to meteoritics type information. It's
always, Barringer bought it, tried drilling for the mother load of
Nickek-Iron, failed, it's 30-50,000yrs. old stuff and that's it. Any ideas
where i can get more information like your post . You know Tom Knudson is
the one who really wants to go there and, well, give it a shot at finding a
chunk of Canyon Diablo, poking its nose out of the dusty desert terrain to
take home . Hey, I bought a 6pound Canyon Diablo individual 10 yrs. ago
from Bob Haag . It has lots of character- meaning it's not a 6lb. round
boring slug of iron. If you bought it to slice it up, it does'nt matter
what the shape is, but for my first meteorite at $80.00lb. back then and
going for $500.00lb. now with some dealers, it was a great investment that
promisses to skyrocket in the near future. Bob told me it would- he's a good
man. Email Tom if you get any more info.. Thanks Again and Good Night
                                   (IMCA #0583- Roman N.)
>From: "Ron Hartman" <RNHARTMA_at_mtsac.edu>
>To: "Roman Nakonechny" <uraninut239__at_hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor crater?
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:15:38 -0800
>
>Hello Roman,
>
>I don't see any threads re: this post, re: angle of impact. It has been
>well documented that objects can and do and will form circular explosion
>craters when impacting at oblique angles. Case in point, most of the lunar
>craters are circular. The Meteorite Crater is best described as a square
>with rounded corners. This is a result of the fracturing at stress point
>in
>the strata, which are essentially sedimentary: limestone and sandstone,
>which were "rolled back" as one would open a sardine can. Hope this info.
>is of help. Not trying to be authoritative here.
>
>The Meteor Crater ownership and problems re: hunting is a long and evolving
>story. I could tell you volumes (and perhaps will someday when we meet.)
>
>Ron Hartman
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Roman Nakonechny" <uraninut239__at_hotmail.com>
>To: <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor crater?
>
>
> > Yo Tom,
> > I was going to go out there myself a couple of years back and
>one
> > of the two top meteorite dealers in the world , I forget which, told me
>that
> > he went out there at night and got nabbed by security personnelin a SUV
>who
> > have sophisticated equipment to listen for the tell-tale signature
> > frequencies of operating metal detectors. They zeroed in on his "sorry
> > -lookin" asspergum with homing directional antennae- like when
>biologists
> > are homing for tagged and trasmitting endangered animals- but the
> > electronics are tuned to metal detector transmit signals. They have
>night
> > vision scopes, the works. It's not like it used to be , even 5yrs. ago.
>Just
> > walking around in the blue sky Arizona daylight and looking for wind
> > -erosion unearthed meteorites- the SECURITY people , if they spot you,
>will
> > check your backpack, especially if you have a shovel the size of a
>backhoe
> > and are trying to lie your way out of it. The OFF-LIMITS PERIMETER is 6
>mls.
> > around Meteor Crater . Hell, you could find a non- Canyon Diablo Stone
> > Meteorite and they will confiscate it, and your backhoe, and your
>$800.00
> > Whites metal detector- and you'll spend a night in the nearby jail.
>This
> > particular dealer went home unnerved at the security attack on him and
>the
> > jail ing. But at night- they know what your there for man, and it aint
>to
> > poach tarantulas or antellope. As far as impact angle of entry, and it's
>my
> > opinion, a beautiful and symmetrical circle- of -a -crater and the near
> > deposition of after-
> > impact iron tells me it was a direct hit - 90*degrees straight up from
> > horizontal ground. I'm curious too about the angle of entry and we have
> > people on our List who might be more informed about the impact dynamics
>at
> > Meteor Crater .
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* Good Luck If You Go Tom.
> > Roman ( IMCA #0583)
> >
> > >From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <knudson911_at_frontiernet.net>
> > >To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor crater?
> > >Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:09:30 -0700
> > >
> > >Hello List, Does anyone on the list know much about the impact of the
> > >Canyon Diablo meteorite? I would like to know the most current thoughts
>on
> > >entry angle and exact direction. Also when the meteor would have broken
>up
> > >and when pieces would have started falling off the main mass? Any help
> > >would
> > >be greatly appreciated. : ) I am trying to see if there is any place
>legal
> > >for hunting along it's flight path.
> > >
> > >Thanks, Tom
> > >Peregrineflier <><
> > >Yea, that's right,
> > >The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168
> > >
> > >
> > >
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