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From: Mark Ferguson <mafer_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:27 2004
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Hi Howard and list

I like this idea very much. I noticed the problem but hadn't taken time =
to worry and answer since I had more pressing things to contend with.
What I would like to mention is that the Apple Rubber company in NY (no, =
they aren't that kind of company) make all sizes of o-rings and are =
especially noted for the manufacture of silicon o-rings in just about =
any color you can think of including a translucent uncolored one. It =
might be a great idea if we got a group together and bought a minimal =
amount of the clear o-rings to do just as Howard has suggested for the =
dust and specks.
I would have to do a search on them, but I'm sure I could find them on =
the web (I don't have access to the Tomcat books anymore).
Let me know if theres an interest for this.
Mark
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  From: Howard Wu=20
  To: Mike Groetz ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com ; =
meteoritecollectorsassociation_at_yahoogroups.com=20
  Cc: capricorn89_at_earthlink.net=20
  Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 12:36 PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: [meteoritecollectorsassociation] =
Intermission/Membrane Box Finding

  Thankyou, Mike, for comfirming a riddle I've had about membrane boxes =
for sometime. I too have been curious about the small migration of dust =
into the bottom of these boxes. And I thought I was the only one. I'm =
now been using #2 capsule inside this boxes for the rarest of the rare.

  Howard Wu

  Mike Groetz <mpg444_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
    Good Morning-
       Lets take a break from the email battles going on
    (I'm tired of them and just zapping without opening)
    and let me tell you about a neat membrane trick I
    found.
       Recently I purchased about 1/10th of a gram of
    Johnstown in dust and crumbs. They came in a vial,
    which looked good, but I thought in one of Mr.
    Hartman's membrane boxes would look much nicer.
       So I carefully poured them into the center of one
    of the small boxes, spread them to about 3/8" diameter
    and gently put the lid on tightly.
       Then I held it up to admire my work and it all slid
    South within the box.....
       I emailed Mr. Hartman and he was kind enough to
    type me back with a note that the boxes were not
    really designed for crumbs and dust. Generally 1/8" or
    larger pieces work best. There is also a small vent
    hole in the membranes to relieve the pressure when
    coupling which the crumbs can fall through.
       So I came up with this idea. I poured the crumbs
    and dust back into the vial and got a new approx. 5/8"
    OD/ 3/8" ID faucet "O" ring washer, laid it in the
    center of the membrane and poured the vial back within
    the washer. Then reapplied the lid.
       I held it up and it was wonderful!!!! The crumbs
    and dust stayed in place within the "O" ring and yet
    spread out enough to see the assortment of fragments.
       Another neat thing is if you lay the membrane box
    flat and lightly tap it, the dust goes to the bottom
    and the crumbs to the top.
       It may be simple but this really made my day. I may
    take a photo of it with the engineering camera at work
    tomorrow- if anyone would like to see it- email me off
    list and I would be happy to send it to you.
       Everyone have a nice Sunday. Maybe we can talk some
    meteorites and collecting on the list today.

    Take care,
    Mike Groetz
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Howard and list</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I like this idea very much. I noticed =
the problem=20
but hadn't taken time to worry and answer since I had more pressing =
things to=20
contend with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What I would like to mention is that =
the Apple=20
Rubber company in NY (no, they aren't that kind of company) make all =
sizes of=20
o-rings and are especially noted for the manufacture of silicon o-rings =
in just=20
about any color you can think of including a translucent uncolored one. =
It might=20
be a great idea if we got a group together and bought a minimal amount =
of the=20
clear o-rings to do just as Howard has suggested for the dust and=20
specks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would have to do a search on them, =
but I'm sure I=20
could find them on the web (I don't have access to the Tomcat books=20
anymore).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let me know if theres an interest for=20
this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dmpg444_at_yahoo.com =

  href=3D"mailto:mpg444_at_yahoo.com">Mike Groetz</A> ; <A=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 12, 2003 =
12:36=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Re:=20
  [meteoritecollectorsassociation] Intermission/Membrane Box =
Finding</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Thankyou, Mike, for comfirming a riddle I've had about membrane =
boxes for=20
  sometime. I too have been curious about the small migration of dust =
into the=20
  bottom of these boxes. And I thought I was the only one. I'm now been =
using #2=20
  capsule inside this boxes for the rarest of the rare.</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>Howard Wu<BR><BR><B><I>Mike Groetz <<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mpg444_at_yahoo.com">mpg444@yahoo.com</A>></I></B> =
wrote:</DIV>
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solid"><TT>Good=20
    Morning-<BR>   Lets take a break from the email battles =
going=20
    on<BR>(I'm tired of them and just zapping without opening)<BR>and =
let me=20
    tell you about a neat membrane trick I<BR>found.<BR>   =
Recently I=20
    purchased about 1/10th of a gram of<BR>Johnstown in dust and crumbs. =
They=20
    came in a vial,<BR>which looked good, but I thought in one of=20
    Mr.<BR>Hartman's membrane boxes would look much =
nicer.<BR>   So I=20
    carefully poured them into the center of one<BR>of the small boxes, =
spread=20
    them to about 3/8" diameter<BR>and gently put the lid on=20
    tightly.<BR>   Then I held it up to admire my work and it =
all=20
    slid<BR>South within the box.....<BR>   I emailed Mr. =
Hartman and=20
    he was kind enough to<BR>type me back with a note that the boxes =
were=20
    not<BR>really designed for crumbs and dust. Generally 1/8" =
or<BR>larger=20
    pieces work best. There is also a small vent<BR>hole in the =
membranes to=20
    relieve the pressure when<BR>coupling which the crumbs can fall=20
    through.<BR>   So I came up with this idea. I poured the=20
    crumbs<BR>and dust back into the vial and got a new approx. =
5/8"<BR>OD/ 3/8"=20
    ID faucet "O" ring washer, laid it in the<BR>center of the membrane =
and=20
    poured the vial back within<BR>the washer. Then reapplied the=20
    lid.<BR>   I held it up and it was wonderful!!!! The =
crumbs<BR>and=20
    dust stayed in place within the "O" ring and yet<BR>spread out =
enough to see=20
    the assortment of fragments.<BR>   Another neat thing is =
if you=20
    lay the membrane box<BR>flat and lightly tap it, the dust goes to =
the=20
    bottom<BR>and the crumbs to the top.<BR>   It may be =
simple but=20
    this really made my day. I may<BR>take a photo of it with the =
engineering=20
    camera at work<BR>tomorrow- if anyone would like to see it- email me =

    off<BR>list and I would be happy to send it to you.<BR>   =
Everyone=20
    have a nice Sunday. Maybe we can talk some<BR>meteorites and =
collecting on=20
    the list today.<BR><BR>Take care,<BR>Mike Groetz<BR>IMCA#8474 (And =
proud of=20
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