[meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)

From: Mark Miconi <mam602_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:37 2004
Message-ID: <010201c39fe8$c6fe75e0$d7e16a44_at_ph.cox.net>

Thank you....
----- Original Message -----
From: Grant L. Elliott <gle_at_bellatlantic.net>
To: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com>; Michael L Blood
<mlblood_at_cox.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)


> MIKE,
> Tax returns are not public information-
> GRANT ELLIOTT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com>
> To: "Michael L Blood" <mlblood_at_cox.net>
> Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)
>
>
> > Well, in that case, We could look up all oyoiur
> > information that is publicly available and post it
> > here. taxes, etc etc etc. Just because it is public
> > if you want to try, does not mean that it should be
> > posted for all to see.
> > Mike Farmer
> > --- Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net> wrote:
> > > Jamie, Mike & all list members,
> > > Any and all of you may be as offended as you
> > > please, however,
> > > Jamie has done absolutely nothing to violate
> > > anyone's privacy. All
> > > data he has provided IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. All he has
> > > done is
> > > organize it in a more comprehensive manner for the
> > > meteorite
> > > community. If you have an issue, it is with eBay,
> > > not with Jamie.
> > > Additionally, I find this information both
> > > interesting and
> > > informative and appreciate reading it. It IS one of
> > > the many topics
> > > appropriate to the list - it is a definite
> > > indication of one level of the
> > > meteorite market and, therefore, totally appropriate
> > > for the list.
> > > Those who feel otherwise can always use the
> > > old "delete" key.
> > > Other than my statement that I, personally,
> > > enjoy having
> > > this information provided, the statements contained
> > > here are not a matter
> > > of opinion, they are matters of fact. This is public
> > > information and
> > > appropriate for the list. People can have all the
> > > "opinions" about
> > > that they want, it still won't change the reality
> > > that those are facts.
> > > I can be of the opinion that 2 + 2 = 3. I can be
> > > offended that 2 + 2 = 4.
> > > That does not mean that 2 + 2 does not = 4.
> > > Sincerely, Michael Blood
> > >
> > >
> > > on 10/29/03 4:53 AM, Michael Farmer at
> > > meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, I just saw this in Prague. I am quite offended
> > > by
> > > > the public posting of my information. If you want
> > > to
> > > > take the time and do that research, ok, but making
> > > it
> > > > public here is no one's business. DO NOTY put me
> > > in
> > > > that information again. It might even be against
> > > ebay
> > > > policy. I will research that when I get home.
> > > > Mike Farmer
> > > > --- RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> Should this be considered a true invasion of
> > > privacy
> > > >> even if all the information that was used in the
> > > >> analysis is available to anyone who wants to
> > > obtain
> > > >> it? It's not like this is confidential
> > > information
> > > >> being spewed without the persons consent. Or is
> > > it?
> > > >> : /
> > > >>
> > > >> -Ryan
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: Randy Mils
> > > >> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:01 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Let me be the first to agree that this is an
> > > >> invasion of privacy. This is also not the place
> > > for
> > > >> "ebay analysis". We have been there and done
> > > that
> > > >> with another "former list member"
> > > >>
> > > >> Randy
> > > >>
> > > >>> From: Jamie Stephens
> > > >>> To: Meteorite List
> > > >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] EBay analysis
> > > >> (preliminary)
> > > >>> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:06:43 -0600
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Listees,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On the dealer/collector spectrum, I'm at the
> > > >> collector end.
> > > >>> I haven't yet sold any meteorites (but I do need
> > > to
> > > >> thin
> > > >>> out my collection a bit). Anyway, I am
> > > interested
> > > >> in the
> > > >>> meteorite market dynamics. It's fun.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Targeting Ebay, I exercised some software tools
> > > I
> > > >> have. I
> > > >>> looked at completed "Meteorites, Tektites"
> > > category
> > > >> completed
> > > >>> sales from 2003-10-10 to 2003-10-25 (the data
> > > that
> > > >> Ebay
> > > >>> keeps easily available). Here are some
> > > interesting
> > > >> stats:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [CAVEAT: I haven't thoroughly validated these
> > > >> results. Please
> > > >>> consider them preliminary.]
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Items ended: 2036
> > > >>> Items sold: 1035
> > > >>> Number of unique sellers: 169
> > > >>> Number of unique winners: 413
> > > >>> Number of unique bidders: 815
> > > >>> Total sold: $57,951.60
> > > >>> Most expensive item sold: $6,736.00
> > > >>>
> > > >>> More data below. I plan to start collecting data
> > > >> over time to
> > > >>> see trends. If you're interested in the result,
> > > let
> > > >> me know.
> > > >>> I'll post if there's sufficient interest. I'm
> > > >> mostly interested
> > > >>> in the "demand side". Are more people bidding on
> > > >> meteorites?
> > > >>> What else are they bidding on? Etc.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Of course, I'm only looking at EBay -- as
> > > opposed
> > > >> to the large
> > > >>> number of direct deals that I can't see.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Some folks might gripe that I'm invading
> > > privacy.
> > > >> Yes? If
> > > >>> so, lemme know. I can obfuscate identities. But
> > > >> folks can
> > > >>> still figure out the identities from the EBay
> > > data.
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please remember the caveat above, and send my
> > > any
> > > >> comments
> > > >>> or questions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --Jamie Stephens
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Top 20 sellers making the most money:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> seller | # trans | usd
> > > >>> -------------------------------+-------+-------
> > > >>> cometshop | 47 | 10634
> > > >>> finmet | 70 | 7436
> > > >>> meteoritehunter%40comcast.net | 80 | 4584
> > > >>> meteoritemarina | 17 | 3619
> > > >>> a.chondrite | 6 | 2145
> > > >>> mr-meteorite | 6 | 2132
> > > >>> flattoprocks | 30 | 1956
> > > >>> meteoritelab | 108 | 1937
> > > >>> katy2kary | 35 | 1710
> > > >>> meteoritehunters | 47 | 1374
> > > >>> 17jack-anthony | 10 | 1141
> > > >>> meteoriten | 8 | 1044
> > > >>> illinoismeteorites | 12 | 1025
> > > >>> paolo2000 | 7 | 1018
> > > >>> 3281958 | 2 | 1005
> > > >>> meteoriteusa.com | 22 | 940
> > > >>> meteorflash | 79 | 808
> > > >>> svassiliev | 18 | 736
> > > >>> meteoritesandmore | 63 | 628
> > > >>> litig8nshark | 6 | 516
> > > >>> (20 rows)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Top 20 bidders spending the most money:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> bidder | usd | wins
> > > >>> ---------------------+------+------
> > > >>> nickelironmonkey | 6787 | 2
> > > >>> dbgbogey | 2065 | 2
> > > >>> cat_berlin | 1848 | 3
> > > >>> peterutas%40aol.com | 1630 | 1
> > > >>> aggiemwd | 1525 | 1
> > > >>> pangeogem | 1447 | 3
> > > >>> meteorpassion | 1032 | 16
> > > >>> meteoritoeg | 1009 | 21
> > > >>> pat11260 | 978 | 7
> > > >>> tdaulton | 961 | 2
> > > >>> pema9 | 824 | 11
> > > >>> 17jack-anthony | 817 | 10
> > >
> > === message truncated ===
> >
> >
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