[meteorite-list] New Campo -Myth Busted?

From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Aug 24 13:17:08 2004
Message-ID: <00bc01c489fe$2e516040$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003>

Well Adam, I have myself been in Australia for the last two weeks, so I
didnt have time to read the endless bickering on the list. I saw the emails,
just deleted them.
You are not asking questions about terrain, you are saying that their is
some "myth" using your own words and subject, this trying to stir up more
controversy.
Again, I could care less, as I dont do Campo anymore, and I think the
question is of course valid, but the way you are presenting it is odd, and
again, any email without names is worthless. Just like Matteo's fake names
putting feedback on his lame website. Without known list members emailing
such info, who knows if it is true or not.
Dont take it wrong or take offense, read what I said.

Mike Farmer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Campo -Myth Busted?


> Hi Mike and List,
>
> I think it is very relevant information and more importantly it concerns
> meteorites. Mike, if you took the time to read I am investigating new
areas
> to add to my travel itinerary. Others may be interesting in going there
and
> should be concerned about things such as terrain and the laws governing
such
> things.
>
> All the best,
>
> Adam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>;
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Campo -Myth Busted?
>
>
> > Interesting, but what is the point? Are you making a point? Why are you
> > worried about Campo now?
> > Any why post "emails" with no authors. If people are not willing to
post
> > their names, regardless of the info, I think anything they write is
> > worthless.
> > I dont really care, as I have been sold out of Campos for years, but
> still,
> > this is an odd discussion you are making.
> > Mike Farmer
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 9:52 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] New Campo -Myth Busted?
> >
> >
> > > Dear List,
> > >
> > > I would like to thank those who responded to my inquiry about old
versus
> > new
> > > Campos. I am looking to explore new areas and thought this locality
> might
> > > have been worth investigating but have since changed my mind. Below
are
> a
> > > set of responses that best address this issue. The authors would like
> to
> > > remain anonymous so I left their names out.
> > >
> > > ***********************************************
> > > Email #1
> > >
> > > Your "well informed source" is correct on both counts. Illegal
> exportation
> > > and there are no mountainside finds. The terrain is basically flat and
> the
> > > strewn field is shorter and wider than presented in Cassiday's various
> > > papers. The reports of a specimen recovery 70-80 km down-range are
> > repeated,
> > > but have never been evidenced. The difference between 'new' and 'old'
> > Campos
> > > is the depth of recovery. Cassiday's specimens recovered 1962-73 are
> both
> > > 'new' and 'old'. Recovered at depth within the craters are 'new';
those
> > > recovered from surface ejecta or from farmers' fields are 'old'.
> Repeated
> > > irrigation and the use of fertilizers has taken its toll. Cassiday
used
> a
> > > WW2 metal detector in his search. With the increasing demand by
> > collectors -
> > > beginning about 1989 - much more powerful detectors are being used in
> > > recovery; the deeper recoveries being more stable. Not all of the
'new'
> > > specimens are stable as some specimens continue to be found at shallow
> > > depths. The extremely flat surface of the region is subject to sheet
> > > deposition 1-2 cm/100 yr (think Kansas). Runoff is limited to shallow
> > > depressions and occasional shallow channels; the slopes of which might
> be
> > > miss translated as mountain-sides.
> > >
> > > The pre-entry meteoroid is estimated to be ~ 3 m in diameter and
masses
> ~
> > > 840,000 kg (Lieberman, et al., in MAPS Feb 2002) and suggests that
many
> > more
> > > specimens will be smuggled out in the coming years.
> > >
> > > Other than the variously published photos by Cassidy et, al. I was
only
> > able
> > > to locate photos of the "Haag" specimen. Its recovery down-range is
> > > consistent with aerial break-up scenarios and is probably the Campo
del
> > > Cielo main mass.
> > >
> > > ****************************************************
> > > Another Note:
> > >
> > > The place where the "New Campos" are found is the same that the one of
> the
> > > "Old Campos". The difference is the "old" are near the surface, so
them
> > > intensely undergone the effects of the meteorization, mainly the
> humidity.
> > > The "new" are deeper so that them could conserve its regmagliptes and
> have
> > a
> > > greater stability. The "New Campos" began to appear when the zone was
> > > released with powerful metal detectors. Previously the espec?mentes
were
> > > found on the surface or raised when the fields were plowed.
> > > The Campo del Cielo strewn field has 45km by 15km. But it has an area
of
> > > approximately 1500 hectares where the greater concentration is
verified.
> > > Many authors affirm that the strewn field reaches 80 km, because
stories
> > > exist on the denominated "Mes?n de Fierro", probably situated 70 km to
> the
> > > NE of the main site. But until today it was not verified.
> > > *******************************************************
> > >
> > > I hope you found this information to be as interesting as I did,
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Received on Tue 24 Aug 2004 01:17:03 PM PDT