[meteorite-list] Morocco new fall news.

From: dean bessey <deanbessey_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Dec 3 13:23:33 2004
Message-ID: <20041203182329.88184.qmail_at_web12309.mail.yahoo.com>

Farmers price range is what I have been offered it at
also. 50 dhirims is what everybody is offering it to
me at (But with a side that they like me so I can have
it cheaper - Over the past week I have had 3 moroccans
tell me that farmer was in morocco and buying it up
like crazy at 50 dirhams a gram).
But what really pisses me off about the moroccans is
their lies about TKW amounts. They contact 10 dealers
and tell us all that this 300 grams is the entire
find and later if you buy it then 300 grams more
magicly gets found. You never know what the moroccans
have hidden and almost everybody over their takes
part in that particular scam. I generally dont get
involved with the achondrites for strictly that
reason.
However, they started off saying that this new fall
has 60 kilos. If there really was only 60 kilos I am
betting that the reported weight would right now be 8
kilos. That would be the normal way that things are
done in morocco for 60 kilos of a new find. By saying
60 kilos I am betting that the real so far known
weight is more like 200 or 300 kilos. Thats how things
get reported in morocco. If anybody pays anything
remotely close to $6 they are taking the huge gamble
that this one meteorite is the time that the moroccans
have started reporting the known weights honestly.
I plan on getting involved in this fall when I can
offer it to my customers at $1 a gram and still make a
decent profit. Until you can buy it retail at $1 a
gram I would avoid it.
Thats just my honest opinion. I have been wrong in the
past and if there is only 8 kilos you will be sorry
when the price hits $35
Cheers
DEAN.



--- McomeMeteorite Meteorite <meteorites_at_hotmail.com>
wrote:

> $6 - 10/gr. ? Moroccan people they begin to do
> clever, but in the same time
> they will be ruined with them their same hands
>
> Matteo
>
>
> >From: "Michael Farmer"
> <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> >To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Morocco new fall news.
> >Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 10:14:51 -0700
> >
> >Hello everyone, I have just arrived back in Tucson
> after one of the most
> >difficult and dangerous trips I have ever done.
> >
> >I was in Morocco for the last week to investigate
> the new fall and a new
> >Pallasite. Everything that could have gone wrong on
> this trip, did, so I
> >left Morocco very quickly and returned home.
> >
> >I will make a very long story short but it should
> serve as a warning to
> >all.
> >
> >I got some of the new Pallasite last month in
> Morocco, and planned a trip
> >to go to the site of the meteorite find. It is in
> Western Sahara, right on
> >the Algeria/Morocco/Mauritania borders. This is the
> same Pallasite that
> >John Birdsell has some of.
> >I was assured that it was no problem to go to the
> area, but when I got to
> >Assa, we changed into a very old military vehicle,
> this is when I should
> >have realized that something was wrong.
> >When we got to Zag, we detoured off road for about
> 20 kilometers to avoid
> >the town and police/military checkpoints.
> >The meteorite is 30 kilometers south and east of Al
> Mahbas Western Sahara,
> >and when we got about 20 kilometers from the area,
> we went off-road. That
> >is when the Moroccans told me that this was a
> military-only, prohibited
> >zone, and that we were not allowed there! I of
> course got a little
> >concerned (especially when we saw several
> mine-fields. We were driving
> >cross-country at night with no lights, only by full
> moonlight, (not a safe
> >thing in an old war zone where mine-fields are
> still around).
> >The next morning we arrived at the tent of the
> nomad who found the
> >pallasite. He led us there, over the berm and
> military fighting
> >emplacements to the site, Algeria was only about 2
> kilometers away.
> >The place is a small area about 10 meters across,
> many pieces, mostly shale
> >fragments full of olivine crystals, and some small
> individuals. I searched
> >it for about an hour and found many pieces, and one
> of the other Moroccans
> >found a piece about 80 grams, just metal, no
> crystals. We had planned a
> >careful search, but one of the Moroccans spotted a
> military patrol coming
> >so we packed up quickly and fled. It is very flat
> there, nowhere to hide.
> >They chased us for about 2 hours but we were too
> far ahead and they could
> >not catch up, but it was close enough for me. An
> American with
> >Metal-detectors, GPS,s, video cameras, and
> Satellite phones, is not welcome
> >in a closed military zone. I had to hide as much
> as possible, dressed like
> >a Moroccan, under blankets, until we left Western
> Sahara and got back to
> >Assa.
> >It was not a fun trip, and when we got to Assa, the
> hotel owner found out
> >we had been in Al Mahbas and called the local
> military colonel, who
> >promptly arrived to find out why we were in a
> prohibited area, and demanded
> >a large bribe to allow us to avoid some very
> serious problems. The bribe
> >was paid needless to say, but they had my
> information and copy of my
> >passport from the hotel.
> >I immediately demanded to get back to civilization
> and get the hell out of
> >the country, which I did.
> >I will give everyone the coordinates of the
> Pallasite, and anyone with the
> >cajones to go there can be my guest. I have been
> around the world many
> >times, and to worse places than this, but there is
> nothing that will put
> >the fear of god in you like driving as fast as the
> vehicle will go for
> >hours with military chasing you through
> mine-fields!
> >This business can get dangerous as I just found
> out.
> >
> >On the second note, we also dealt with the new fall
> there, and it is a
> >total disaster. I did not bother to go to the site,
> as all of my guys were
> >there and none of them got any of the meteorite,
> and the people who had it
> >offered it to them for $6 to $10 gram! I think that
> is absolutely ludicrous
> >and anyone who pays that will seriously regret it
> as I expect it will be
> >$1.00 gram soon enough, like Amgala and Bensour,
> the price will spike at
> >the beginning, and collapse when more and more
> comes out.
> >There is a lot of it, many kilos and it will be
> available. I had other
> >problems to deal with there and the new fall was
> the least on my list.
> >There is a lot more to this entire story, but this
> is the gist of it.
> >For me, the Moroccans have become far to
> untrustworthy lately and I am
> >likley done with that mess over there.
> >Michael Farmer
> >
> >
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