[meteorite-list] STILL WAITING FOR PELLISSON RESPONSE

From: Pekka Savolainen <pekka.savolainen_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Dec 3 22:48:16 2004
Message-ID: <41B133FB.6010903_at_dlc.fi>

well, perhaps some writs to US, canadian and several courts in EU would
calm
them down a bit...;-

There was a time, the North African countries was in fact colonies of
France,
but not anymore. Can imagine, this is a bit frustrating, but the only
thing as the
result of this "advertising" is, Pellisons will have only local customers.

Any lawyers collecting meteorites? Just wondering, this nonsense makes
this
kind of confuse in the world-wide community...

best,

pekka s



Michael Farmer wrote:

> Dean, don't hold your breath. The Pellisons come on this list every
> few months to advertise their stuff, but never have any dialogue.
> I have never seen them answer a question, they just post their stuff,
> and fade away for a few weeks or months.
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dean bessey" <deanbessey_at_yahoo.com>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 5:07 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] STILL WAITING FOR PELLISSON RESPONSE
>
>
>> As per the Pellisson's email of a couple hours ago,
>> and even givin the fact about that moronic website
>> that was purporedly created by the Pellisson' I have
>> an open mind
>> and am hoping to hear the Pellisson's side of the
>> story. I dont speak french so I am getting my
>> information from Bruno and what appears to be the
>> Pellisson's own website. As I said I have an open
>> mind about this and I want to know if it is Bruno that
>> is conning everybody as the email that the Pellisson's
>> made several hours ago seems to imply or if the
>> Pellisson's are really such lying scumbags as Bruno
>> and their own website would make us all believe.
>> Below is my previous email to this list with all of
>> the questions that I am sure everybody on this list
>> would like answered by the Pellissons.
>> Give us all the complete story so as to clear up any
>> rumours. If you guys are not the lying scumbags that
>> everybody now believes that you are I am sure that you
>> can at least give us an explanation for for this
>> moronic terrorist website.
>> Sincerely
>> DEAN BESSEY
>>
>> --- dean bessey <deanbessey_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmmm. Maybe an apology is in order. Are you saying
>>> that Bruno and Carine is full of #$_at_$ and that you
>>> have never said that meteorites are being used to
>>> support terrorism? Has bruno faked that part of what
>>> appears to be your website and saying that it is
>>> from
>>> you?
>>> And can you confirm that you have not used my name
>>> or
>>> anything that I wrote publicly or privately in
>>> french
>>> court or media to support this ridiculous claim that
>>> deset nomads are somehow supporting al quida which
>>> you
>>> know as well as anybody is not true?
>>> Can you confirm that my name was never used in
>>> french
>>> court and if it was can you spell out exactly by
>>> whom
>>> and in what context? (Sorry my french is non
>>> existant
>>> so I need an english translation).
>>> Since we are trying to be civil please answer those
>>> questions in a straitforward manner for me. I think
>>> everybody else on this list would appriciate the
>>> honest answer also so as to clear up any
>>> misunderstandings about the rumours that has been
>>> flying around.
>>> Sincerely
>>> DEAN BESSEY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- SaharaTeam_at_aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> > Let us explain the French problem with B.
>>> Fectay/C.
>>> > Bidaut
>>> >
>>> > Bruno Fectay and Carine Bidaut have sued us in
>>> March
>>> > 2004 for libel. It is
>>> > "only" a civil action between B. Fectay/C. Bidaut
>>> > and us to claim for
>>> > damages.
>>> > Now we are also claiming for damages against
>>> them.
>>> >
>>> > It will take several months to the justice before
>>> to
>>> > return a verdict.
>>> > As you can imagine, nothing is illegally done in
>>> > front of the court :
>>> > private emails are not admissible.
>>> > And "nobody" can be summoned to appear in a
>>> civil
>>> > action.
>>> >
>>> > All the remarks and all the publicity which have
>>> > been given to this affair
>>> > are the consequences of this civil action.
>>> >
>>> > Regarding our web page on NWA meteorites, the
>>> French
>>> > court decided in our
>>> > favor:
>>> > "Il ne peut ?tre contest? que le d?bat sur les
>>> lieux
>>> > de d?couvertes des
>>> > m?t?orites est l?gitime et pr?sente un int?r?t
>>> > scientifique. La m?me
>>> > l?gitimit? doit ?tre reconnue pour les discussions
>>> > sur le transport et les
>>> > op?rations commerciales relatives ? ces
>>> m?t?orites"
>>> >
>>> > We hope that everybody can return to his passion.
>>> > And we wish that those
>>> > interested by the subject will wait for the
>>> official
>>> > decision.
>>> > And if Bruno Fectay has something to express why
>>> > does he needs to write
>>> > through N. Classen and not with his own email ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > For those who want to know more about us and our
>>> > work on Saharan
>>> > strewnfields, you can browse our web pages:
>>> > http://www.SaharaMet.com
>>> >
>>> > And our 2003 expedition on Mauritanian craters:
>>> >
>>>
>> http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/craters.html
>>
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Richard and Roland Pelisson
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Norbert Classen" <trifid_at_timewarp.de>
>>> > To: "meteorite-list"
>>> > <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>> > Cc: "La Memoire de la Terre" <info_at_meteorite.fr>
>>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:38 AM
>>> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a
>>> > free meteorite hobby?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Hi All,
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm forwarding this message on behalf of Bruno
>>> &
>>> > Carine.
>>> > > They are having problems to post to the list,
>>> and
>>> > thus they
>>> > > asked me for assistance. Please read below.
>>> > >
>>> > > BTW, I believe their message to be of major
>>> > importance to
>>> > > us all. We shouldn't allow a few rotten apples
>>> to
>>> > spoil our
>>> > > hobby - so please read what Bruno & Carine have
>>> > to say since
>>> > > it affects us all, and a few of us, more
>>> > directly.
>>> > >
>>> > > If you want to take action, please contact
>>> Bruno
>>> > & Carine in
>>> > > that matter. You may reach them via:
>>> > info_at_meteorite.fr
>>> > >
>>> > > Best,
>>> > > Norbert
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > >
>>> > > Dear List Members,
>>> > >
>>> > > this subject is of high interest as it will
>>> affect
>>> > all of us
>>> > > including the scientists. What the Pellissons
>>> are
>>> > doing is just
>>> > > unbelievable, they already did contact the
>>> French
>>> > interior
>>> > > Ministry as well as the Customs offices in
>>> > different countries.
>>> > > They are linking the meteorite community to
>>> > terrorism in different
>>> > > ways.
>>> > >
>>> > > They did send to major medias a 64 pages
>>> document
>>> > full of crap
>>> > > with parts of YOUR private and public mails to
>>> try
>>> > to establish
>>> > > that nobody but themselves have the right to
>>> sell
>>> > meteorites!!
>>> > >
>>> > > Be aware than in a close future we will all have
>>>
>>> > problems shipping
>>> > > or crossing borders with meteorites, thanks to
>>> > them!
>>> > > Just try a Google search for "money for
>>> terrorism"
>>> > and you will get
>>> > > straight to their page, listed in first
>>> place....
>>> > see it here:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>> http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=%22money+for+terrorism%22&meta=
>>
>>> > >
>>> > > They are using metanames and cross linking
>>> > > with pages about horrible things just to
>>> attract
>>> > interest on them.
>>> > >
>>> > > You all know that we did bring them to court,
>>> > they already have been
>>> > > sentenced in emergency during the last Tucson
>>> > show. Now we are driving
>>> > > them to serious things, we received their list
>>> of
>>> > pseudo arguments
>>> > > from our attorneys.
>>> > >
>>>
>> === message truncated ===
>>
>>
>>
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