[meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
From: Bernhard <rendelius_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:32:11 2004 Message-ID: <011901c3e82e$c6c36660$0100a8c0_at_rpgdothome> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C3E837.2887CE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let me elaborate a little on why I think this is a rather silly accusation and - most of all - rather humiliating to the people of the Mahgreb, where those meteorites are found: First of all: the quotations about militant groups from Algeria are TOTALLY taken out of context. Further on - the quote that the border between Morocco and Algeria has been officially closed in 1994 misses to say that "in reality, very little people care about that, mostly because of geographical circumstances". Next: there is NO known militant islamic group operating out of Libya, so these allegations are without foundation. You are right that there won't be "thousands of beduines" on the strewnfields - but what does it prove? In my opinion, it only proves that - well, less people are needed for that job. Beduines are no fools or "primitives", their hunts are pretty well organized. I don't doubt you may have good intentions with this page (although some not so good intentions can be imagined for such a campaign as well) - but if you know the region a little, and if you know the people a little there, this page is something VERY objectionable - at least for me. In fact, I feel angered by what you are doing. It might and will impress some folks, but I am sure I am not alone when I say that this page is highly speculative and - if read by the wrong persons - can do a LOT of harm. Regards, Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:00 PM To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? Aren't you getting a little, well, too "terrorized" here? Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of SaharaTeam_at_aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:35 PM To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? http://www.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/Nwa.html 1 - NWA meteorites are undocumented stones "bought" in Morocco. 2 - There is no potential prospecting field in Morocco to supply this market. 3 - More than 95% of the NWA meteorites come from Algeria, Libya and up to Egypt. 4 - The border between Morocco and Algeria has officially been closed since 1994. Islamic army groups cross the border. NWA meteorites = contraband meteorites Some serious facts: - 2 of the 11 international terrorist organizations which have been target of the Bush government since September 11th live in Algeria: - GIA (Armed Islamic Group) - GSPC (Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat) - 30 Europeen hostages have been rescued from Islamic groups by a military attack between the Acfer and the Tanezrouf meteorite strewnfields in 2003. - Well organized smuggling rings act through the militarized no man's land between the two countries. - NWA meteorite contraband is still financed by private investors who prefer to stay "anonymous". - The track of the millions of dollars involved in this traffic is lost on the Algerian border. More info : http://www.saharamet.com/ Richard & Roland Pelisson ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C3E837.2887CE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <TITLE>Nachricht</TITLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D875290419-31012004>Let me=20 elaborate a little on why I think this is a rather silly accusation and = - most=20 of all - rather humiliating to the people of the Mahgreb, where those = meteorites=20 are found:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D875290419-31012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D875290419-31012004>First=20 of all: the quotations about militant groups from Algeria are TOTALLY = taken out=20 of context. Further on - the quote that the border between Morocco = and=20 Algeria has been officially closed in 1994 misses to say that "in = reality,=20 very little people care about that, mostly because of geographical=20 circumstances". Next: there is NO known militant islamic group operating = out of=20 Libya, so these allegations are without foundation.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D875290419-31012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D875290419-31012004>You=20 are right that there won't be "thousands of beduines" on the = strewnfields - but=20 what does it prove? In my opinion, it only proves that - well, less = people=20 are needed for that job. Beduines are no fools or "primitives", their = hunts are=20 pretty well organized.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D875290419-31012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D875290419-31012004>I=20 don't doubt you may have good intentions with this page (although = some not=20 so good intentions can be imagined for such a campaign as well) - but if = you=20 know the region a little, and if you know the people a little = there, this=20 page is something VERY objectionable - at least for me. In fact, I feel = angered=20 by what you are doing. It might and will impress some folks, but I am = sure I am=20 not alone when I say that this page is highly speculative and - if read = by the=20 wrong persons - can do a LOT of harm.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D875290419-31012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D875290419-31012004>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D875290419-31012004>Bernhard </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Dde dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] <B>On Behalf Of=20 </B>Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, = 2004 8:00=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> = meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20 [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for = terrorism?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D937075918-31012004>Aren't you getting a little, well, too = "terrorized"=20 here?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D937075918-31012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D937075918-31012004>Bernhard</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Dde dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] <B>On Behalf Of=20 </B>SaharaTeam_at_aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, 2004 = 7:35=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> = meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for=20 terrorism?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT = lang=3D1=20 face=3DArial size=3D2 PTSIZE=3D"10"=20 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> &nbs= p; =20 NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?<BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/Nwa.html">http://w= ww.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/Nwa.html</A><BR><BR><BR>1=20 - NWA meteorites are undocumented stones "bought" in Morocco. <BR>2 = - There=20 is no potential prospecting field in Morocco to supply this market. = <BR>3 -=20 More than 95% of the NWA meteorites come from Algeria, Libya and up = to=20 Egypt. <BR>4 - The border between Morocco and Algeria has officially = been=20 closed since 1994. Islamic army groups cross the=20 = border.<BR> &n= bsp; &nb= sp;=20 NWA meteorites =3D contraband meteorites<BR><BR><U>Some serious=20 facts:</U><BR>- 2 of the 11 international terrorist organizations = which have=20 been target of the Bush government since September 11th live in=20 Algeria:<BR> - GIA (Armed Islamic=20 Group)<BR> - GSPC (Salafist Group for Preaching = and=20 Combat) <BR>- 30 Europeen hostages have been rescued from Islamic = groups by=20 a military attack between the Acfer and the Tanezrouf meteorite = strewnfields=20 in 2003. <BR>- Well organized smuggling rings act through the = militarized no=20 man's land between the two countries. <BR>- NWA meteorite contraband = is=20 still financed by private investors who prefer to stay "anonymous". = <BR>-=20 The track of the millions of dollars involved in this traffic is = lost on the=20 Algerian border.<BR><BR><BR>More info :<BR><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.saharamet.com/">http://www.saharamet.com/</A><BR><BR>R= ichard=20 & Roland = Pelisson<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C3E837.2887CE60-- Received on Sat 31 Jan 2004 02:16:48 PM PST |
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