[meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day

From: Mauro Daniel <rocksfromspace_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Jul 7 00:49:09 2004
Message-ID: <BAY7-F44isznQyaU8X50004dfde_at_hotmail.com>

Bob Evans its another Cosmicvisitors alias Brad Sampson...sent money no
material, useless excuses aside the mailbox not go etc.....



>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
>To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Bash Bob Evans Day
>Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 19:54:09 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
>
>To set things straight once and for all......
>
>
>1. Bob, I first called you at 5:53pm CST to inquire about the refund, yet
>you claimed that you would have to wait a few hours to send the refund via
>Paypal since you did not have internet access at the time, thus proving yet
>another blatant lie from you; your defensive and unprofessional response
>to my email (to the list) came through at 6:08pm CST, a time-lapse of only
>15 minutes. No internet access for a few hours???
>
>2. Also, regarding the original transaction; as I had told you over the
>phone, I was unable to make the payment (in excess of $1000) due to the
>fact that I had not received a large payment that I had been expecting to
>receive from a sale that I had made. The buyer that I had made the deal
>with finally backed out after two nearly two months of negotiations, so
>please don't act like it hasn't happened to anyone other that you before,
>because If it didn't we wouldn't be in the situation and both of us would
>be happy. I told you that I was sorry for not being able to come through
>on the deal, but unlike others, I have more important financial priorities
>over collecting meteorites.
>
>3. I understand that you had to take the extra time to relist your
>auctions. However, per Ebay policy, odds are you didn't loose any money as
>a result of this since no additional fees are charged to one's account if
>the unsold items sell the second time around.
>
>4. "Shame on you little boy" Wow, very mature of you, Bob. At least I
>don't act like one.
>
>
>I am sorry that I had to go public with this, but I believe that it has
>importance so that others can avoid any similar experiences in the future.
>Thank you for your time.
>
>Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Comcast Mail <bobe5531_at_comcast.net>
>Sent: Jul 6, 2004 6:55 PM
>To: Meteorite list <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>,
> RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Bash Bob Evans Day
>
>Ok,
>
>Here goes........... The money order to Stefan was mailed out sometime in
>October last year. Why wait 9 months to bring it up here on the list?
>There were some inquiries that I responded to approx. 4 months after the
>payment was sent. Unfortunately Martin and Stefan dont want to forward my
>email responses.
>I should add that Stefan is a complete gentleman, and I never accused him
>of
>being fraudulent.
>Martin, If you have any proof of me accusing him of being fraudulent .....
>please share it with the list !
>Of course you cant , BECAUSE I NEVER DID !
>
>By the way Martin......... If I never responded to your inquiries , how did
>you know I accused him of being fraudulent? Can you read my mind ?????
>
>As for Ryan........ He requested that I cancel approx. 8 to 10 meteorite
>ebay auctions ( which I did ) so that he may buy the whole lot. Then he
>waits one week and tells me that he wants his $125.00 deposit back. This
>obviously put me in a jam, anyone knows that I sell material to acquire new
>meteorites.
>So , I get pissed off and take my time refunding the money. Go ahead and
>shoot me!! Some Dealers would have told him to go to hell for wasting their
>time and would never have dealt with him again.
>
>So beware of Ryan he likes to have you cancel auctions, pay a deposit and
>then later back out and ask for a refund. Shame on you little boy
>
>As for the other people Ive dealt with in my short time collecting, I want
>to say I appreciate all of the sales, trades, discussions etc.
>To name a few Mike Farmer, Dave Shultz, Steve Arnold Chgo., Michael Blood,
>Eric Olsen, Rob Wesel, Jim Schwade, Bob Cucciara, Bob Haag
>
>Ask them If I ever stiffed them on money.
>
>And please have a look at my ebay feedback user ID : maccers531
>Sorry, no evidence of fraud there either.
>
>Thanks
>Bob Evans
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
>To: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>;
><meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:46 PM
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
>
>
> > I must warn the list of Bob Evans as well. I was supposed to receive a
>$125 refund from Bob over a month ago and I still have not received my
>money
>back, nor have I recieved a response from him after several email and phone
>call attempts. Well, I checked his Ebay history a few days ago and noticed
>that he had placed a $1500 bid on a meteorite not too long ago, yet he
>cannot afford to return my hard-earned money back to me? Never again! I
>warn
>everyone else not to do any business with Bob Evans. His unprofessionalism
>is a joke.
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> > Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
> > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
> >
> > Hello list!
> >
> > Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
> > Spacerocksinc!
> >
> > As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.
> >
> > I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
> > but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob
>Evans.
> >
> > Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
> > meteorites for 1000$.
> > Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
> > Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
> > Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money orders
> > it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
> > Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
> > didn't).
> > Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question
>of
>a
> > few minutes.
> > Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to
>claim
> > Stefan to be fraudulent.
> >
> > This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
> > community just has no need for such persons.
> >
> > You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be
>of
> > modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that
>case.
>I
> > wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
> > 1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
> > meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
> > With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from
>similar
> > experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.
> >
> > So:
> > Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions
>(ID:
> > maccers531)
> > until he will have solved that situation.
> >
> > To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that
>thing.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> > Martin Altmann
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
> > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July 6,
>2004
> >
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html
> >
> > IMCA#5184
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> > Sent: Jul 6, 2004 7:08 AM
> > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Explicite WARNING !! Bob Evans
> >
> > Hello list!
> >
> > Great stone - always a pleasure to watch the meteorite of the day at
> > Spacerocksinc!
> >
> > As nice as the specimen may be, the owner isn't.
> >
> > I never did this before and hope not to have to do it in future,
> > but I have to warn everyone on this list to make business with Bob
>Evans.
> >
> > Bob Evans ordered from wellknown list member Stefan Ralew last autumn
> > meteorites for 1000$.
> > Stefan sent the specimens, but they aren't paid until today.
> > Bob Evans stated to have sent a money order, but it never arrived.
> > Well a letter always can be lost in mail and with checks or money orders
> > it's really no problem to block it and to issue a new one.
> > Instead of this Bob Evans claimed, that Stefan recieved the money (he
> > didn't).
> > Each bank can verify easy, whether a check was cashed. It's a question
>of
>a
> > few minutes.
> > Bob Evans refused to ask at his bank, kept the stones and continues to
>claim
> > Stefan to be fraudulent.
> >
> > This is a completely improper behaviour and in my eyes the meteorite
> > community just has no need for such persons.
> >
> > You may think, that this is not my cup of tea, but I know Stefan to be
>of
> > modest character, so that he never would address to the list in that
>case.
>I
> > wrote also to Evans personnally with no reactions.
> > 1000$ are quite a sum and we all know Stefan for his efforts to offer
> > meteorites of outstanding quality at extreme low prices.
> > With this mail I want to preserve both collectors and dealers from
>similar
> > experiences with Mr.Bob Evans.
> >
> > So:
> > Please don't sell to or trade with Bob Evans, nor bid on his auctions
>(ID:
> > maccers531)
> > until he will have solved that situation.
> >
> > To avoid misunderstandings: Spacerocksinc has nothing to do with that
>thing.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> > Martin Altmann
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: SPACEROCKSINC_at_aol.com
> > To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:06 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July 6,
>2004
> >
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/July_6.html
> >
> > IMCA#5184
> >
> >
> >
> >
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