[meteorite-list] Special Martian Meteorite Auction on 5-12

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <tunguska2004_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon May 3 03:06:37 2004
Message-ID: <20040503070635.76755.qmail_at_web20721.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Martin
 
Unfortunately I do not look at more the dealers but Ebay for the prices, why many of my buyers say: " but I have see on ebay for a low price..." " No to much high the price, on ebay I have see for a low price " etc..... here I have some prices find on ebay for the lunars and martians:
 
Dhofar 731 $846.8 - 704.3/gr.
Dhofar 026 $734.3 - 547.5/gr.
Dhofar 730 $754.4 - 863.2/gr.
Dhofar 306 $601.2 - 883.9/gr.
Dhofar 307 $746.4/gr.
Dhofar 019 $200.3 - 325.5/gr.
 
Etc.... etc...
 
For not speack of the first lunars type DaG 400, I have pay my first piece of this meteorite at $15,000/gr. now the last piece I have buy I have pay $1428.5/gr. or DaG 476 pay $2000/gr. when exit and now my new slice I have pay $300/gr.....the unique to have good prices its Chassigny, Nakhla, Governador Valadares. Zagami for the old $1000/gr. request now you find for $325/gr. and under if you look ebay. The unique DaG's to have a motionless price its DaG 489 why is a complete mass and no others pieces they will come cut, DaG 670 why the finder not want ruin prices, and this is sold for $300 to $500/gr. dependf from the size. The others martians meteorites sorry but the prices is go many many down. Moroccan people is the first to have ruin market, I have received offer for SNC for Euro 65/gr. or $77/gr. is normaly after the price not go up many. Another case its the historical meteorites, I have look the prices its under go up - seen the last pieces of Lang or Elliott put on ebay -
 but the same from the dealers the prices go up or down. The problem is many collectors seen the prices on Ebay, and now WANTS this prices. An advice of mine, buy how many more historical meteorites, those will stay always with a good price, even if some have change the value for gram, example Tenham, Ensisheim, Pultusk and others.
Ah, I put my pieces for sale, type DaG 476, for the price I have pay when have buy this, if go sold well, if no go sold amen. Wgere you have see the dag 476 for $900/gr.?? The unique slice I have now is $500/gr.
 
Matteo
 
 


Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de> wrote:
Hi,
I have problems with the mail too,
third try to come through.

Hi again les Hupes and list,

so it's perhaps a missunderstanding.
I thought with your add, you were addressing to the normal collectors as
most of us are.
So I took as the "market value" those prices, which were visible at that
time on the homepages of the dealers and from their sales catalogues, thus
the prices, for which they offered the material to the buyers, vulgo the
retail price.
I have the collector's view, who has to pay the resulting prices and not
those which dealers make for dealers or which are offered on fairs in
personal communication or in Morrocco.
Perhaps there were not the right dealers among the more than 70 compared,
but to speak about collector's price, I'm not able to find an offer for DaG
476 at 120$/g.
Cheapest was Vassiliev with starting at 357$/gm
Next les Labennes with 400$
Dinostar (I mix it always up with Nature Source - who is Delgaudio?) 813$/g
Al Mitterling 900$
Surprise: Matteo 900$
well and quite all others, which I don't want to name here, as many are on
the list and they may take it for an affront, if I go on had prices >1000$
(top price was 2900$/g)

Zagami was slightly more expensive,
average was 1424$/g.
No offer for 140$/g reported.

Cheers!
Martin A.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Altmann"
To:
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Special Martian Meteorite Auction on 5-12


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Hupe"
> To: "Martin Altmann"
> Cc:
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Special Martian Meteorite Auction on 5-12
>
>
> > Hi Martin and List,
> >
> > Martians bottomed out two and a half years ago according to our data
base.
> > Zagami could be purchased for $140.00 a gram then and DAG 476 for
$120.00.
> > Both sell for around $300.00 a gram now. It is understandable that the
> > SAU005 and DAG 476 series would be at the low end of the feeding chain
> > because of the amount of supply. I feel Zagami (a witnessed fall
selling
> > for less than NWA Martians) is under priced right now because most of it
> has
> > now been distributed and larger specimens are becoming increasingly
> > difficult to find. Nakhla (another witnessed fall selling for less than
> NWA
> > Nakhlites) is the least expensive Nakhlite right now but has held steady
> at
> > around $1,200 a gram for several years making it a relatively safe
> > investment. It looks like TKW is the factor that most influences the
> price
> > of Martian material. Surprisingly, it does not seem to matter that some
> are
> > witnessed falls according to our database which tracks auction prices
not
> > dealers. Martians were one of the first type of meteorites to
depreciate
> > and are among the first to recover from the downturn of a couple years
> back.
> > They have outperformed everything the last two and half years according
to
> > our collection database.
> >
> > Lunar on the other hand seems to be under appreciated right now. We
feel
> > that it was priced way too high four years ago and the price seems to
have
> > over corrected itself. We have improved our collection greatly taking
> > advantage of these low prices as have several other collectors so you
wont
> > hear us complaining. At a fraction of the weight of Martians, Lunar
> > represent the biggest bargain right now, in our opinion.
> >
> > I feel as a whole, the so-called market is still adjusting itself.
> > Witnessed falls were among the last items to drop in price and still
> > continue to decrease sharply according to our database that represents
> most
> > available falls contained in our collection. The low petrologic type
> > chondrites and rare material having been holding steady lately
indicating
> > the demand is good and the price has been beaten down about as far is it
> is
> > going to go. If the supply were to suddenly drop you can count on rare
> > material to be among the first to show a sharp rise in price according
to
> > our predictions.
> >
> > Cataloging our collection has given us some insights into how valuable
> > different types of meteorites really are. The good news is that overall
> the
> > so-called market is recovering in most sectors and most items have
> remained
> > steady or increased slightly over the last quarter. It is too soon to
> tell
> > if it has to do with the economy as a whole.
> >
> > Wishing everybody the best,
> >
> > Adam and Greg Hupe
> > The Hupe Collection
> > Team LunarRock
> > IMCA 2185
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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