[meteorite-list] Lunaite from Colorado is probably slag

From: Matt Morgan <mmorgan_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon Nov 8 15:38:01 2004
Message-ID: <004c01c4c5d1$d08c2a20$5f01040a_at_cgsjnm3p212k>

Adam:
You wrote what I wanted to say. I wholeheartedley agree. The proper
channels should have been used before making such a claim, especially a
grand claim like this. Changing the abstract title does little to add
credibility to the parties involved; they screwed up and were obviously
given opportunities to redo their research, but failed to take the advice of
the meteoriticists who study planetary meteorites. How often do things like
this happen, that shouldn't?<><><><><><><>
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
PO Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Cc: <Mikestockj_at_aol.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunaite from Colorado is probably slag


> Hi All,
>
> When I went to Houston to read and listen to abstracts I was surprised by
> comments made after the oral presentations. One or two questions were
> allowed after each presentation and in a few cases scientists expressed
> their disappointment that proper study protocols were not followed.
Advice
> was freely given to those who obviously needed to do more work on their
> abstracts. It was like some were be admonished for doing less than
> acceptable work.
>
> In this case, two leading scientists commented before the oral
presentation
> was to take place. This served several purposes. A fantastic claim was
made
> public that a 3.2 kilogram achondrite meteorite had been found in Colorado
> that was presumed to be a Mare basalt from the moon. The veracity of such
a
> statement should be brought into question because of the importance it
> represented. I feel it is irresponsible to present such data without
> collaboration from a qualify scientist. In this circumstance it caused a
> lot of excitement unnecessarily and served very little purpose.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> ------------------------------------
> Adam Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> Team LunarRock
> IMCA 2185
> raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Mikestockj_at_aol.com>
> To: <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunaite from Colorado is probably slag
>
>
> > Hi All
> > I was unable to attend the poster session yesterday but Jack Murphy was.
> Here
> > is what he found;
> >
> > "Thanks for sending me the information on the GSA poster. I met the
young
> man
> > and talked to him for some time. He has changed his abstract (although
the
> > printed and on-line version are not changed) and approach. New title is
> > Preliminary Analysis of an Ultrarefractory Material from Granada,
> Colorado, USA. He
> > has spent a lot of time this last year working on composition &
petrology
> of
> > this foot ball-sized mass....and it has been a good learning experience.
> He
> > understands that this sample may be slag and not a meteorite but he has
> wanted to
> > follow through on his proposed undergraduate research methods. I am
going
> to
> > try and get him hooked up with a professional in the field who can
advise
> him,
> > perhaps even channel his interests into continuing work in meteoritics.
> You
> > can post this to the list if you would like. Thanks."
> >
> > Looks like he saw the slag comments. Any comment.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Mike Jensen IMCA 4264
> > Bill Jensen IMCA 2359
> > Jensen Meteorites
> > 16730 E Ada PL
> > Aurora, CO 80017-3137
> > 303-337-4361
>
>
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