[meteorite-list] Ebay Negative Feed back

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From: Eduardo. <rockhoundm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Oct 4 06:40:43 2005
Message-ID: <B0000002255_at_wmsrv.abaconet.com.ar>

Hi Al, Harlan and all
The biggest auction page from Argentina, www.mercadolibre.com.ar, which
is associated with e-bay, developed a much better feedback system. You
have 30 days to leave feedback, but the other part can't see the feedback
he received until he put his feedback or the 30 days end. So no way of
retaliate. Then you can make a comment on the feedback received just as
oyu can on e-bay. This system is much better than the one of e-bay.
Anyway I don't think that a suggestion to e-bay will make them change
their system, especially because they charge when you try to take out the
negative feedbacks...
Eduardo

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From: "harlan trammell" <skyrox_at_hotmail.com>
To: mlblood_at_cox.net, almitt@kconline.com, Meteorite-
list_at_meteoritecentral.com
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:48:13 +0000
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Negative Feed back

> <html><div style='background-color:'>i am still trying to develope a
> "bad feedback sniper" that will automatically leave feedback (of any
> type) at the LAST SECOND, so that it times out and the other cannot
> retaliate. i am still trying to figure out ebay's time engine on such.
> this would purify ebay. E-E-E-verybody on ebay has good feedback, just
> from the fear of retaliatory bad feedback! 
> <DIV>i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE
> megs of storage). please cc to: <A
> href="mailto:bigpineartifacts_at_yahoo.com">bigpineartifacts@yahoo.com</A>
> </DIV>
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> From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net> To: Al
> Mitterling <almitt_at_kconline.com>,Meteorite List
> <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> Subject: Re:
> [meteorite-list] Ebay Negative Feed back Date: Mon, 03 Oct
> 2005 11:56:42 -0700 >Hi Al and all, > The eBay feedback
> system is so transparently flawed I give >it nearly zero
> credibility. If someone has multiple complaints, >only then does
> it matter to me. I never use it unless a buyer >directly pleads
> with me and I don't give a damn if anyone uses >it with
> me. > Since this whole rating thing is based on the whims of a
> huge >population peppered here and there with sickos, I consider
> any >rating over 97%+ excellent and 100% nothing short of
> miraculous. > Al, it is clearly "unfair" that you got dinged but
> that is the >nature of
> this eBay set up. It should always be viewed as
> generally >reflecting the business practices of an individual.
> Anyone within the >97%+ range indicates only whackos have a
> problem with him/her. > While a "perfect 100%" is what all
> dealers should strive for, it >is unrealistic to believe any of
> us could maintain it because there >ARE people who will try to
> cheat you and when you don't let them >they will strike back with
> a negative feedback. > Your one "defense" is a responding
> feedback - but even then, >eBay screws you again by limiting you
> to like 25 words! Even so, >you can clarify (within obvious
> limits) what really occurred. Then, >since your rating is like
> 99% anyone looking into the single negative >feedback can trace
> your response and read it. It ends up hurting the >original
> complainer far more than you, as
> they inevitably have multiple >complaints and you have one. Who's
> most believable in a such a "he >said - she said"
> scenario? > I know it is frustrating when one works for years
> attempting to >be entirely fair in every way in every deal. You
> start to take a good >deal of "pride" in being a 100% honest and
> fair dealer under every >circumstance. Then comes the time
> someone tries to cheat you >and you won't let them - and they
> ding YOUR reputation! But, >remember, while pride, when properly
> aligned can be a good thing, it >can also be destructive if we
> become obsessed. > So, word your negative feedback carefully and
> rationally and >anyone so inclined can trace your "negative
> feedback" and check >out your response. But, do you think anyone
> will be concerned if you >have a 99.7% positive rating? >
> Unfair, yes.
> Damaging? - not really. Only the most naive people >could
> possibly think someone with hundreds of deals "should" have >a
> perfect rating when the rating is based on the whims of a
> public >that includes all manor of whackos and deviants. >
> It is good you care about your reputation. It wouldn't be
> good >to obsess about it. 99% makes you A # 1 in any sane
> person's book. > Best wishes,
> Michael > > > > > > >on
> 10/3/05 9:57 AM, AL Mitterling at almitt_at_kconline.com
> wrote: > > > List, > > > > I'll only
> burden the list with this one time then prefer people email me >
> > in private so we don't take up list space. I have received a
> negative > > feedback for the first time out about 450 some
> transactions. > > > > The negative feed back came as
> a result of
> my negative feed back to them > > for not paying for and item
> they won after four weeks and three days. I > > am interested
> in sharing the name of this ebay buyer for others to > >
> avoid. Their complaint with me was I don't except paypal BUT in
> my > > listing I always state that I don't except paypal. Had
> they asked me to > > simply cancel the transaction since they
> didn't realize I didn't take > > paypal I would have been glad
> to do so. Instead they lead me to believe > > (several times)
> that a payment had been sent. I'd be glad to share my > >
> dispute information with people for some verification. >
> > > > I do accept credit cards and they could have paid for
> it that way but > > didn't. I believe I bent over backwards
> for them to bring the sell to a > > successful conclusion.
> Three other items I sold to this person were also > > ultra
> slow in getting payments (three weeks or longer) They keep
> their > > feedback (private) which indicates less than
> desirable feedback. I feel > > that this should be brought
> before other sellers so they have the option > > to avoid this
> unfair buyer. > > > > Having a real good feedback
> rating I am not concern with one blemish but > > will pursue
> this as far as I can. Ebay wants you to pay to settle the > >
> problem, dispute!! I think this is also an unfair policy by ebay but
> as > > has been pointed out before ebay is in it for the
> money. > > > > Feel free to email me if you want the
> name of this buyer. > > > > --AL Mitterling >
> > Mitterling Meteorites > > > > Best! > >
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