[meteorite-list] Announcment: Rollin' Rock Meteorite Sales Letter -First issue ready for Launch !

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mcomemeteorite2004_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Oct 28 02:35:01 2005
Message-ID: <20051028063458.13829.qmail_at_web26201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

WE waith you in Bologna Mineral Show, the first show
in Italy...its the next March.

Matteo

--- Greg Hupe <gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com> ha scritto:

> Hi Martin and List,
>
> I fully agree with your fine points regarding new
> meteorite collectors. Some
> "newbies" see all aspects of collecting and
> different types, qualities,
> weathering levels, etc., while others do not. I, as
> well you and others,
> also answer a large amount of emails from those who
> are new to the hobby. It
> is a huge time sink but worth the effort. New
> friendships and informed
> collectors are formed in this way.
>
> I did forget to mention I also supply some dealers
> with some of what I have
> so it is represented in other arenas opposed to just
> eBay. That brings a
> thought to mind on how I can better represent my
> material in my eBay ads...
> :-)
>
> I was thinking of going to the Munich Show this year
> at the last minute but
> then, as always, another pressing issue came up and
> alas, no show. I am
> hoping, and talking about, going to the different
> European shows next year.
> I would like to meet all of my friends there who I
> have not met in person
> and of course the ones I have met.
>
> Have a great show to all who are there.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Altmann" <Altmann_at_Meteorite-Martin.de>
> To: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com>;
> <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Announcment: Rollin'
> Rock Meteorite Sales
> Letter -First issue ready for Launch !
>
>
> > Hi Greg, list
> >
> > just back from the show - uuuh I saw some
> stones.....
> >
> > Certainly you are right, that not all stuff on
> ebay is boring or of low
> > quality, especially not yours, which I have to
> admit, are best prepared
> > even
> > then if they are only of micromount size.
> > BUT. Don't forget that meanwhile, I'd guess, the
> majority of collectors
> > came
> > to meteorites in the very recent times, at the
> culmination years of the
> > desert rush and they have no orientation (and they
> don't read Kichinka's
> > book).
> > Among my clients there were so many, who collected
> regardless of the
> > class,
> > outer appearence, weathering degree one ugly brown
> stone after the other
> > and
> > thought, this would be the essence of meteorite
> collecting. Some of them
> > even bought at the beginning always the same 3 or
> 4 localities or numbers.
> > They are not cutting and preparing by themselves -
> then at least I could
> > understand, that it would be a thrill, no, they
> put that unclassified
> > expressionless chunks in the display cases and are
> thinking, that's it.
> > They clearly need some education, to discover the
> thrilling nuances and
> > aspects of this hobby (else I'd think, it will be
> boring for them within a
> > short time). Another phenomenon is, that, often
> independend from their
> > financial means, they are buying specks or
> micromounts, obviously they
> > collect numbers and names, but not meteorites. I
> ask you, where on a
> > mm-sized micro you can enjoy for instance a good
> brecciation? Third
> > problem - and this is caused solely by ebay, they
> do not appreciate a high
> > quality preparation and are not able to reckognise
> outstanding specimens,
> > because usually every piece of, sorry, crap on
> ebay is attributed as it
> > would be the Star of India.
> > Take please a look to German ebay. It's often a
> cosmic garbage dump,
> > because
> > the sellers can't list quality anymore as it is
> not paid there. For an
> > iron
> > etched au point with fanciest inclusions and
> Neumann lines they will pay
> > exactely the same as for the same iron in form of
> a rusty rough specimen.
> > Furthermore they aren't able to value rare or
> historic falls, as they are
> > used to pay always the same for the ordinary
> desert stuff, if they see an
> > Eagle Station, then they think, humm it's a
> pallasite, seller says it's
> > ultrarare, so he can't complain, if I bid 3 times
> more as for Brahin and
> > it
> > will end at 5$/g.
> >
> > Greg, I tell you, the last 4 or 5 years I spend
> the largest part of my
> > time
> > in answering questions of rookies or even of
> those, who never held a
> > meteorite in their hands, telling them all the
> facettes of the stones and
> > our hobby, often mailing 80++ hours per week, felt
> almost like a virtual
> > German Nininger (time which I rather should have
> spent for
> > selling&enjoying
> > life). Meteorites are rare, they are special, it's
> an absolutely exotic
> > niche (ask mineral&fossil dealers, what they and
> their clientele are
> > thinking about stones from space...),
> > accordingly difficult is it for the beginning
> collectors to find
> > information
> > at all and to find their way through the jungle of
> the nowadays offered
> > material.
> >
> > And from the economical point of view I would say,
> if we take them by the
> > hand, encourage them with our knowledge and help
> them to develope their
> > individual styles and taste, we all will profit.
> The dealers, as good
> > material will be paid better - the collectors, as
> they'll be able to
> > separate the wheat from the chaff (and as long as
> ignorance or market,
> > tell
> > it like you want, keeps the prices so low, to make
> their bargains).
> >
> >>but the sales end of your message
> >> really stands out in your posting.
> >
> > That's why we call it a "Sales Letter".
> > The sales letter now, is nothing else as an
> attempt to focus on a monthly
> > changing selection of extraordinary pieces, a
> promise not to molest the
> > collectors with the common stuff, which they find
> day by day offered -
> > that's all.
> >
> > Your attempt is different, you are selling your
> fine material via your
> > name
> > and your reputation (and the expections, which
> result from this), which
> > you
> > gained because of your work in the last years. I'm
> convinced, that you
> > would
> > get out worse results on ebay, if you would sell
> your stones more or less
> > anonymous or if you wouldn't introduce them to the
> list in your elaborate
> > way (-->education).
> > (Here we chose the way of suscription, so that
> only those, who are
> > interested in specimens of that niveau will
> recieve it, so that nobody can
> > complain about unwanted ads. - Have to write this,
> as someone feared, we
> > would sell the email-adresses :-).
> >
> > The discussion, where better to buy - from ebay or
> from dealers' offers,
> > we
> > don't have to start here.
> > Every experienced collector (and dealer too) will
> agree, that on both ways
>
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