[meteorite-list] Definition Debate: Planets May Soon Get Adjectives

From: Ron Baalke <baalke_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Sep 21 15:02:32 2005
Message-ID: <200509211901.j8LJ1JI17827_at_zagami.jpl.nasa.gov>

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/050921_planet_definition.html

Definition Debate: Planets May Soon Get Adjectives
By Robert Roy Britt
space.com
21 September 2005

An international group of astronomers trying to define the term planet
may be finally nearing a decision, but a consensus is unlikely.

If a decision is soon rendered as expected, with or without consensus,
the result will be less of a definition, however, and more a string of
qualifying adjectives.

The upshot: Astronomers will likely continue using the term planet, or
they might switch to planetary mass object. And either way, they will
put other terms in front of it to define each type, such as gas giant,
terrestrial, asteroidal and perhaps even traditional or historic.

In the end, the phrase nine planets will almost surely be relegated to
the history books.

The challenge

The effort has been ongoing for several years, as new sorts of objects
in the solar system and beyond have rendered the traditional idea of
planet useless to astronomers and confusing for the public.

The announcement in July of a world larger than Pluto orbiting
our Sun out beyond Neptune brought discussions to a head. A 19-member
working group within the International Astronomical Union has been
scrambling ever since to reach consensus, but to no avail.

The main sticking point: If Pluto is a planet, then so is 2003 UB313,
the object discovered in July. But by that logic, there are several
other round objects nearly as big as Pluto that should be considered
planets, some astronomers say.

The compromise currently being floated by the working group is to add an
adjective in front of the term planet for each different type of
non-stellar round object.

Pluto and 2003 UB313 could be called Trans-Neptunian objects. Earth
would be called either a terrestrial planet or perhaps a "cisjovian"
planet, meaning it's inside Jupiter.

Further complicating the matter are extrasolar planets much
more massive then Jupiter, planet-like objects
orbiting dead stars called pulsars, and possibly even free-floating
worlds that don't orbit stars.

No consensus

Today, a news article in the journal Nature states that the working
group has come up with the adjective-adding solution and may forward the
final proposal to the IAU Executive Committee within two weeks.

If that's to be the case, then the group's chairman, Iwan Williams of
Queen Mary, University of London, will likely have to act without consensus.

"Every time we think some of us are reaching a consensus, then somebody
says something to show very clearly that we're not," said Brian Marsden,
a member of the group and leader of the Minor Planet Center where
newfound objects are catalogued.

Today Marsden told SPACE.com that it's not clear if a consensus will be
reached soon. "I thought maybe we were close," he said, "but just
yesterday somebody [in the group] insisted we define planet."

That's the very effort that's gone mostly in circles for many months,
however.

Nonetheless, a subcommittee within the working group was formed and is
supposed to report back Friday. Marsden calls the effort "not helpful"
because "it's quite clear we weren't going to agree on a meaning for the
word planet."

Adjective problems, too

Even the sorts of adjectives that might be used is not totally agreed
upon. The terms Trans-Neptunian and cisjovian are based on location, not
composition.

"I don't believe we should classify planetary objects by location,"
committee member Alan Stern of the Southwest Research Institute told
Nature. "We should use properties of the objects as a guide."

Group member Alan Boss said there is a majority that agrees with the
adjective plan and "a minority that's still upset."

Boss, a planet-formation theorist at the Carnegie Institution of
Washington, sees the whole affair as a positive one for science. "We
know so much more now" about the types of objects that are out there,
Boss said in a telephone interview today, that even though a consensus
is unlikely, the act of expanding the classification system is a healthy
one.

Even if the proposal is soon forwarded to the IAU Executive Council,
that body might then conduct its own debate, Boss said.
Received on Wed 21 Sep 2005 03:01:19 PM PDT