[meteorite-list] Pallasite ID

From: R. N. Hartman <rhartman04_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun Apr 30 13:42:59 2006
Message-ID: <003501c66b1e$1b071e00$6401a8c0_at_ronij3wi4b7cpv>

Wards was selling Brenham slices in the late 60's. I suspect that the buyer
got the name mixed up. I had a nice piece that I used in classroom demos
back then until a student dropped a large Canyon Diablo on it. Lesson:
Don't leave specimens on a table for students to handle! (It was very
stable too!) I don't recall that Wards had any other pallasite.

Ron Hartman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Strope" <nwa482_at_comcast.net>
To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:11 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Pallasite ID


> Good Morning Listees.........
>
> Anyone want to take a stab at identifying the meteorite in the following
> photos. The owner said that it was purchased from Ward's Scientific in
the
> late 1960s and identified as an Odessa.
>
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com/images/apallasitea.jpg
>
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com/images/apallasiteb.jpg
>
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com/images/apallasitec.jpg
>
> Thanks in advance...........
>
> Jim Strope
> 421 Fourth Street
> Glen Dale, WV 26038
>
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Notkin" <geoking_at_notkin.net>
> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:41 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Treasure Hunters
>
>
> Dear Listees:
>
> Greetings comrades.
>
> Just returned late last night from our Brenham/Glorieta documentary
> shoot: sunburned, bruised, scratched, and battered, but what a great
> experience. Our Travel Channel host, the glamorous Becky Worley, jumped
> right into the action and was digging holes, riding ATVs, swinging
> metal detectors, and generally working her way through an intense
> meteorite-hunting apprenticeship in 48 hours flat. She's a knockout.
>
> Thanks to Mark and Ruben for posting their photos of our expedition.
> I'll post my own as soon as I can. Mark Bostick and his bro came all
> the way down from Wichita for the dig on Thursday. It was good to see
> some friendly faces and I appreciate the nice web presentation he put
> together.
>
>
> In other news: this Besednice character is a real corker isn't he? He's
> gotta be just a fake ID, or a troll right? With a name like that I'm
> putting my money on Jim Strope or Dave Andrews having some fun with us.
>
> Thaddeus Besednice posted:
>
> > Oh great - another glorification of looting (relic hunting)!
>
> A relic is generally assumed to be a product of, or an item
> specifically associated with, human culture and history (i.e. an
> ancient religious relic), so it doesn't really work with a meteorite.
> Also, how can you be looting something when its owner (the landowner)
> has expressly asked you to excavate it from his own property? Answer me
> that, Mr. Moldavite.
>
>
> > Do Any of the Brenham pits get at least a cursory record of their
possible
> > prehistoric components?
>
> They're not pits, silly. The Brenhams are completely buried, way, way
> underground, a bit like your conscience. An "impact pit" is a modest
> surface indentation made by a meteorite which is too small (or
> traveling too slowly) to produce an actual crater. I suggest reading
> Mr. Norton's "Rocks from Space" where you can learn some other helpful
> meteorite terms, and then use them at parties.
>
> FYI, Steve meticulously records the depth, orientation, GPS
> coordinates, and other detailed info for every single find. A
> scientific study (in association with a prominent geologist on the
> List) is underway to determine the true age of the fall. I can't wait!
> IMO the Brenham fall took place more recently than many of us think.
>
> In addition, valuable and detailed strewnfield data is being collected
> with each new find. The area around each excavated Brenham is carefully
> checked for meteorite fragments, as well as the flattened, fossilized
> carcass of an ancient Kansas plains camel, big sabre tooth kitty, or --
> if we're super lucky -- Thaddeus Besednice himself. Steve is REALLY
> hoping that directly beneath one of the big irons he will discover a
> wafer-thin buffalo mummy. Imagine how much that would go for on eBay!
>
>
> > I'm justifiably and unassailably an enemy of the irresponsible,
> > counterscientific, hobbyist attitudes glorified by certain people and
> > uncritically tolerated by others (accomplices).
>
> Good lord that's fabulous. A sentence worthy of Thomas Pynchon! Yes,
> that would be me, one of the accomplices. I know you're just jealous
> you big Moldavite.
>
>
> > No, we don't need degrees to collect lumps of asteroids, planets, and
> > comets, but a bit of respect for irreplacable biological taxa and
cultural
> > residues would make us more than drooling, avaricious freebooters.
>
> Unfortunately, most of the eminent scientists with degrees are too busy
> with classifications, new papers, and important lab work to go
> scurrying around in the mud with us, but we're happy to do our part. I
> do agree with you though -- think of all the "irreplacable biological
> taxa" that resides at the bottom of a hole in a field in a Kansas farm!
> If you want to come out and study it, I'll be happy to hand you a
> shovel.
>
> Anyway, just to contradict you one more time, Steve has had recognized
> academics up to Brenham to inspect the work-in-progress, notably the
> excellent Dr. Art Ehlmann of the Oscar Monnig Gallery, TCU.
>
> I know this guy Besednice is just a gag by someone, but replied for the
> sake of some List members who might think this clown is a real person.
>
> Good joke though : )
>
>
> Yours in freebooting asteroids,
>
> Geoff Notkin
> (Arnold accomplice and part-time henchman)
>
> www.aerolite.org
> Rockin' Tucson
>
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