[meteorite-list] Cosmic Dust in Terrestrial Ice MORE

From: Larry Lebofsky <lebofsky_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Aug 5 22:04:45 2006
Message-ID: <1154829878.44d54e3620da2_at_hindmost.LPL.Arizona.EDU>

Hi Sterling:

Some of my best friends (who are atmospheric scientists) do not believe in
global warming. I agree that there are just too many factors involved and you
can get almost any answer you want. While I personally believe that cutting
CO2 emissions is not a bad idea, it should be realized that Mars is having a
warming trend and I am not sure anyone really knows why. Is the Sun
responsible?

Larry

Quoting "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb_at_sbcglobal.net>:

> Hi, Mike, Larry,
>
> Mike, Rob Matson posted a very funny
> website URL:
> http://www.dhmo.org/
> outlining the "consumer" hazards of DHMO,
> which is DiHydrogen MonOxide, which many
> "non-scientific" persons call just plain WATER.
> The website is hilarious.
>
> Larry, there are many components to calculating
> warming vs. cooling for the overall hydrology at any
> temperature, so many that none of the models can agree
> on any result for the overall role of water, so all the
> "global warming" models are fudging their results in
> this regard with simple "plug-ins" which ignore water,
> yet we're supposed to take them seriously. Pul-eeze.
>
> I'm just saying that the perfect summation of all effects
> is to be found in reality, but whether the climate drives
> the water or the water drives the climate, who can tell?
>
> The same is true of CO2 and climate. Which is the
> driving factor? The "global warming" version is that
> CO2 drives climate. William Ruddiman (UVa) has
> just published an analysis that concludes that climate
> drives CO2:
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060725074044.htm
> Complete text (.pdf) at:
> http://www.clim-past.net/2/43/2006/cp-2-43-2006.pdf
>
> Two years ago, Ruddiman published a paper that
> concluded that human activities that increased CO2
> levels accelerated the end of the last glacial period and
> precipitated the interglacial we now enjoy. (According
> to the Milankovich cycles, it was early).
>
> Personally, I think that about the time we get everybody
> "on board" with global warming and are committed to
> and exercising real control of CO2, the climate will turn
> colder. I call it the Principle of Perversity. The one thing
> you can count on weather and climate doing? Change.
>
>
> Sterling K. Webb
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