[meteorite-list] "AD" What is wrong with sharing...

From: JKGwilliam <h3chondrite_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:01:55 -0700
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20061222105019.01d39178_at_pop.west.cox.net>

Greg,
I agree with you whole-heartedly about all of the unproductive, off topic
posts, including my jabs at Ssteve Arnold. There's nothing I can do about
everyone elses behavior but I can change my own. Maybe I'll make a New
Years Resolution to lay off Chicago Ssteve in the coming year. Having said
that, and I said "maybe", I have to let you know that most of my
well-intended resolutions usually bite the dust before January 15th.

Safe and Happy Holiday to All. If any of you are traveling or have family
or friends traveling, be prepared for delays. I have a daughter and
son-in-law stuck in the SLC airport. Their flight was supposed to be
early this morning but has been moved back to Sunday afternoon due to the
Denver Airport being shut down. Boy...what a mess!

Best,

John

At 10:39 AM 12/22/2006, Greg Hupe wrote:
>Hi John and List,
>
>I can appreciate and understand how you feel. I also appreciate your
>comment "...Greg - you aren't one of the offenders that annoy me." This
>makes me feel better about my once a week AD, but I always try to have
>something new each week to include. I will actually be leaning more
>towards the "Weekly Special" opposed to the "Weekly Regular" ADs in 2007.
>I have been very fortunate in the last few years in obtaining rare
>meteorites that have been classified so I can start to offer them soon. It
>is more fun to offer new material than the same weekly items like you said.
>
>On the flip side, as you are insulted by blatant repetitive sales ADs, I
>am equally insulted those who constantly trash each other, apologize
>endlessly, rant on in cartoon-like lyrics and otherwise waste my time
>where I have to "delete, delete, delete" emails unrelated to meteorites,
>but I happily "delete, delete, delete..."
>
>I appreciate your thoughts and those of other's and try to learn by them.
>If constructive criticism is taken appropriately, one can better
>themselves and all can be the better for it.
>
>Have a great rest of the year everyone!
>
>Best regards,
>Greg
>
>====================
>Greg Hupe
>The Hupe Collection
>NaturesVault (eBay)
>gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com
>www.LunarRock.com
>IMCA 3163
>====================
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "JKGwilliam" <h3chondrite at cox.net>
>To: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com>;
><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "AD" What is wrong with sharing...
>
>
>>Greg,
>>I believe that most list members are like me and enjoy seeing ADs for new
>>material and new sales. However, I also believe that we (list members)
>>get tired of seeing the same specimens offered several times a week when
>>the seller posts "reminders" like "my auctions are ending in two days",
>>"my auctions are ending in one day", "my auctions are ending in two
>>hours"....etc. Everyone on this list (with the exception of one person)
>>is smart enough to make note of some items for sale, if they are
>>interested in purchasing them, without the repetitive reminds.
>>Personally, I find them insulting. I hate pushy sales people. I hate
>>the perfume sales girls at the mall who insists on me trying one of her
>>products for my wife. I hate the "going out of business - this is your
>>LAST chance at these fantastic items at rock-bottom prices"
>>approach. And I really hate the guy who tries to insult me into buying
>>his products. "Obviously you're not smart enough to recognize a fantastic
>>opportunity when you see on " tactic.
>>
>>I find these tactics insulting at the mall, on the phone, on the TV and
>>on the Internet. I'm tired of people trying to cram their products down
>>my throat and trying to get their hands in my wallet. If I want to buy
>>something, I'm smart enough to find who has it for sale and I'm smart
>>enough to decide what I'm willing to pay for it. I don't need to be
>>reminded several times. But, if anyone has some new material or is
>>offering a truly discounted sale ( 30% to 50% is good...10% is insulting)
>>, I'm really happy to take a look. If I get sent more than one "
>>opportunity" for the same sale items, I usually send ALL the offers to my
>>trash bin and make a note to avoid that seller again.
>>
>>Bottom line is that I don't like people who waste my time and treat me
>>like I'm not smart enough to navigate through life without their
>>unsolicited help. This isn't an attack on you Greg - you aren't one of
>>the offenders that annoy me.
>>
>>Happy Holidays to All....and Merry Christmas to those who celebrate the
>>event,
>>
>>John Gwilliam
>>
>>At 12:27 AM 12/22/2006, Greg Hupe wrote:
>>>Hello "AD" lovers, haters and otherwise,
>>>
>>>What is the big deal with "AD" postings? Some of you jump on some phantom
>>>bandwagon in hate of Ad-posters and the love wagon for those who never sell
>>>anything. Both types offer a sincere contribution and ADvantage to
>>>meteoritics. To post an "AD" or announce a new meteorite "For Sale" is not a
>>>bad thing. The more new meteorites discovered and offered for science and
>>>sale alike the better I say!
>>>
>>>A non-lemming "AD-Poster" and "New Meteorite-Offerer" signing off...
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>Greg
>>>
>>>====================
>>>Greg Hupe
>>>The Hupe Collection
>>>NaturesVault (eBay)
>>>gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com
>>>www.LunarRock.com
>>>IMCA 3163
>>>====================
>>>
>>>
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