[meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)

From: Walter Branch <waltbranch_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri May 5 15:32:00 2006
Message-ID: <002101c6707a$8bd4d4e0$6101a8c0_at_BranchFamily>

Hi Adam,

Who are you writing about?

-Walter Branch
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:41 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI)


> Dear List Members,
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> Here are some of my thoughts on Self Proclaimed Pairings Issues (SPPI).
>
> I feel this subject needs to be breached again as a few have not caught on
> to how destructive and lowly this practice is.
>
> Saying something is "likely paired" is the same as saying "I am too cheap
> or
> lazy to have my material studied by a qualified Nom Com approved
> facility."
>
> Using notes provided for official meteorites to describe unofficial
> material
> is the same as stealing as far as I am concerned. Why should dealers who
> spend upwards of thousands per month having their material officially
> classified and getting their very own nomenclature allow others to violate
> this information? I know ebay will enforce number borrowing issues as
> they
> have been trained that although nobody owns these numbers they are treated
> the same as serial numbers. These serial numbers only apply to a certain
> amount of material and to borrow them is fraudulent. Some more news; ebay
> treats all product descriptions as proprietary data and will shut down
> auctions immediately if descriptions are borrowed and then reported.
>
> Even if somebody who deals meteorites is 99% sure their material is paired
> to somebody else's they should still follow the correct protocol, have
> their
> material made official and receive their very own number. The only
> meteorites excluded by this rule are from rare falls as stated by the
> Meteoritical Society. NWA 869 is an exception in that multiple type
> specimens from multiple dealers were submitted so all that contributed can
> share this number, a rare case. The I.M.C.A. stated that they stand
> behind
> the Meteoritical Society rules and so should members who belong to this
> organization that stands for "Authenticity" above all else. How can a
> dealer claim his material is authentic when no qualified laboratory has
> even
> looked at it?
>
> Collectors are entitled to official material or at the very least
> provisional if the rules are being adhered to. The rules have been
> stiffened up considerably on provisional numbers because only after a type
> specimen has been submitted to a Nom Com approved depository and studied
> will a provisional number be assigned. The market has moved a long way in
> the last year and a half with more than 95% compliance to these rules. It
> makes good sense 20 years down the road when others take over these
> collections or they are passed down to family members that they can say
> with
> confidence what they have. Terms like a Moroccan stating "these are that"
> or a dealer saying, "likely paired" or "in my opinion" won't fly because
> unstudied material has very little scientific or intrinsic value in my
> opinion. A few years ago, many unknowingly violated these rules because
> they were unclear. I was partially guilty of the same thing a few years
> back but have since reapplied and received new numbers for anything we
> brought out and noted this in my descriptions. The rules have been clear
> for the last two years and to continually violate them will only serve to
> undermine collector confidence.
>
> Enough from me,
> Regards,
>
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> Adam Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> Team LunarRock
> IMCA 2185
> raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
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Received on Fri 05 May 2006 03:31:45 PM PDT