[meteorite-list] In search of a hammer

From: E.P. Grondine <epgrondine_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:10:46 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <703493.19350.qm_at_web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Sterling -

"Haven't you got any video?"

I suppose if I had ever finished my note and it had of
ever gone out, all that I would have needed to add
would have been sex, lots of affairs, sex, castration,
pederastry, torture, sex, maimings, battles; and voila
"Rome" for HBO.

Oh well. By the way, sheep's livers are "silver" when
freshly extracted.

good hunting,
Ed


--- "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Hi, Doug, List,
>
> In case this gets confusing to anybody who's
> reading this thread, we should explain that the dead
> one,
> Gnaeus Pompeius Strabo (nickname: "Squinty"), is
> the father of Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus ("The Great").
> Some sources (not original, but contemporary ones)
> say merely that the elder Pompeius was killed on the
> field of battle; others that he was killed by
> lightning.
>
> That is clearly a case of an historian's reading
> of the
> text. Latin has a word for "lightning." The Romans
> were
> familiar with lightning. Duh. If they meant
> "lightning,"
> wouldn't they have said "lightning"?
>
> Being struck by lightning is a familiar notion;
> in
> mythology, Enceladus, Mimas, Menoetius, Aristodemus
> and Capaneus, Idas, Iasion, and Asclepius all get
> struck
> by lightning. It's associated with getting Zeus (or
> Jove)
> pissed off at you.
>
> Julius says "struck dead by the blast of a
> heavenly
> body." It's worthwhile to note that the "blast" has
> its
> origin in a "heavenly body." No one, not even the
> old
> Romans, believes lightning originates in a "body."
> Neither
> is Squinty struck BY the body. Nope, "a blast" from
> the
> body. What do the Roman know about hypersonic shock
> waves? Nothing, so how else could they describe it?
>
> I'd call this one a good reference for impact
> (or airburst).
> The problem is that after you've put together a list
> of 100
> such incidents, the unconvinced remain unconvinced.
> It's
> all annecdotal. It's vague and not specific enough.
> Haven't
> you got any video?
>
>
> Sterling K. Webb
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MexicoDoug" <MexicoDoug at aim.com>
> To: "Meteorite Mailing List"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] In search of a hammer
>
>
> Thanks for that gem, Ed!, List,
>
> This Googled up from the event:
>
> "On the morning of August 9, 48 bc, Rome's most
> famous general--Gnaeus
> Pompeius Magnus, or Pompey the Great--apprehensively
> prepared his troops to
> face the army of Rome's most successful general,
> Gaius Julius Caesar.
> Pompey's unease was fueled by a meteor that had shot
> across the sky near his
> camp the night before. To some of his soldiers it
> was an ill omen. After
> quelling the disturbance caused by the meteor,
> Pompey retired to his tent.
> There he dreamed of being applauded by Rome's
> citizens as he dedicated a
> temple to the goddess Venus, Bringer of Victory. The
> dream must have made
> the great commander nervous. Venus was the goddess
> from whom Caesar's
> aristocratic clan, the Julians, claimed to be
> descended. Though unknown to
> Pompey at the time, Caesar had vowed that very day
> that if Venus brought him
> victory at Pharsalus he would build a great temple
> to her in Rome."
>
> ref:
>
http://www.historynet.com/historical_conflicts/3030956.html
>
> Best Wishes and Great Health,
> Doug
> PS from the pay Internet reference JSTOR, we have:
> "Pompeius Strabo met his
> death by lightning"
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine at yahoo.com>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:38 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] In search of a hammer
>
>
> > Hi all -
> >
> > Going through some notes from 2003, I found this:
> >
> > >From Julius (IULII: OBSEQUENTIS AB ANNO URBIS
> CONDITAE
> > DV PRODIGIORUM LIBER)
> >
> > "Consulship of Gnaeus Octavius and Licius Cinna
> (87
> > BCE)
> >
> > "56a. While Cinna and Marius were displaying a
> cruel
> > rage in their conduct of the civil war, at Rome in
> the
> > camp of Gnaeus Pompeius [Strabo] the sky seems to
> > fall, weapons and standards were hit, and soldiers
> > struck dead. Pompeius [Strabo] himself was struck
> > dead by the
> > blast of a heavenly body."
> >
> > good hunting,
> > Ed
> >
> >
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Received on Sat 14 Apr 2007 10:10:46 AM PDT