[meteorite-list] A friendly warning...

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:59:00 +0200
Message-ID: <467d97a4.38f.33be.496433681_at_webmailh2.aruba.it>

occasionally...mmmmmmm....is strange 2 packs from the same
dealer - Cottingham- all 2 it is go lost....one ok, but
two...

Matteo

----- Original Message -----
Da : Thomas Webb <webbth1 at yahoo.com>
A : meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
Data : Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:56:37 -0700 (PDT)

> List,
> I believe Michael makes a timely shipment of
> everything ordered and paid for. I've never had this
> problem in the seven years I've been buying from him.
> Problems with International shipments happen to
> everyone occasionally.
> Thomas
>
> --- Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> wrote:
>
> > >Its well know ordinary packs go
> > >for the 70% lost.
> >
> > Then the problem has to be located in Italy,
> > I had only 2 losses in 7 years from USA.
> >
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> > Im Auftrag von M come
> > Meteorite Meteorites
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 19:03
> > An: michael cottingham; 'Jakub Radwan';
> > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
> >
> > It is many strange speack of high shipping cost when
> > I buy
> > many minerals from USA - some its over 4 kg. - and I
> > pay for
> > all $55 for a unique ship and registered, or a
> > normaly
> > registered mail of at 200 grams I pay at $10 via
> > USPS...for
> > not speack of express courier type FedEx or UPS,
> > this last I
> > pay at $40 for big packs. Its well know ordinary
> > packs go
> > for the 70% lost.
> >
> > Matteo
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Da : "michael cottingham" <mikewren at gilanet.com>
> > A : "'Jakub Radwan'" <jakub at meteorites.pl>,
> > <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
> > Data : Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:56:32 -0600
> >
> > > Jakub,
> > >
> > > When is the last time you emailed me? 5 or 6
> > months ago?
> > > Because this is the 1st time, since our
> > transaction that I
> > > have heard anything about this one.
> > >
> > > Back then I answered your emails. Back then I told
> > you I
> > > had shipped it and back then I communicated with
> > you just
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > NO. I don't answer every email on the same
> > subject,
> > > especially when overseas shipping can take time
> > ... a long
> > > time. I have had this problem before, and I
> > believe
> > > everyone finally did receive their item. Maybe, a
> > year
> > > later, but that was not MY FAULT!
> > >
> > > True Story: I sent out several thousands of
> > dollars worth
> > > of the Rare Fall, Weston... I sent it out Global
> > Priority
> > > Mail. It never showed up. I was surprised because
> > I had
> > > never lost a Global Priority before. I sent a
> > > replacement.. Registered Mail, Thousands of
> > dollars more
> > > of Weston. IT NEVER Showed up. This was to
> > Germany. The
> > > buyer thought I was a thief. I thought the buyer a
> > thief.
> > > I began to slowly refund the money... I was pissed
> > because
> > > I thought I was scammed. About a year or more
> > later, one
> > > of the packages was found in the basement of the
> > next door
> > > neighbor. They found this package while cleaning
> > their
> > > basement. My buyer was not home when the package
> > came, so
> > > the postman gave it to the neighbor... and she
> > finally
> > > gave it to my client a year later! The second
> > package is
> > > still missing in Germany.
> > >
> > > In the 10 years I have been doing this... I have
> > sent over
> > > 20,000 packages. I have over 9,000 (NINE THOUSAND)
> > > Positive feedbacks on Ebay, and that is just my
> > ebay
> > > business. I have sold thousands of meteorites to
> > hundreds
> > > of happy customers. I have refunded every purchase
> > that
> > > was lost in the mail or if the person was
> > dissatisfied.
> > >
> > > Also, there is NO WAY to track your shipment
> > outside the
> > > USA. At that time I do not believe that service
> > was
> > > available on the way I sent it.
> > >
> > > ALSO, when you elect to play the "Customs Game",
> > that is,
> > > no or little value decalred on the item and you
> > want to
> > > insure it for the full amount, remember I told you
> > I don't
> > > do that. It is illegal. I did recommend that you
> > insure
> > > it, but that amount would be declared on the
> > customs
> > > invoice and you would have to pay your customs
> > fee. If the
> > > buyer elects to have NO VALUE placed on the item,
> > as to
> > > avoid custom fees, then they forfeit all rights to
> > a
> > > refund.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have had maybe 25 lost packages, (In 10 years)
> > and I
> > > believe I have refunded or replaced the items in
> > all of
> > > these cases, unless there was some other
> > agreement.
> > >
> > > In my experience, Italy is the worst place to send
> > > anything to... Eastern Europe is second and
> > Germany has
> > > sometimes the worst delays.. (Due to Customs).
> > This
> > > statement is not intended to be slander or to be
> > mean, but
> > > some countries have a terrible postal system, with
> > thieves
> > > , delays, and other problems...
> > >
> > > I am in the business to sell meteorites... not
> > play games.
> > > CUSTOMER> POSTAL SERVICE>SELLER. The party in
> > the middle
> > > is sometimes to blame!
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Wishes
> > >
> > > Michael Cottingham
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> > >
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Jakub Radwan
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:35 AM
> > > To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
> > >
> > > Dear Listees,
> > >
> > > As I have tried all other ways to work things out,
> > I
> > > believe it is high time I sent a friendly
> > warning.
> > >
> > > Almost 7 months ago, I purchased a specimen of
> > Campo Del
> > > Cielo from Michael Cottingham. As a Christmas
> > bonus
> > > Michael offered a 50% discount and agreed to
> > cover
> > > freight charges. What was my surprise when it
> > turned out
> > > that the package had been sent via USPS's Global
> > Economy
> > > Parcel service (the worst ground shipping option
> > out
> > > there with estimated delivery time of 4-6 weeks).
> > > Needless to say the parcel has never made it, but
> > that is
> > > not why I am making this public. The real reason
> > is
> > > Michael's lack of respect for his customers.
> > >
> > > Not only has he failed to provide me with a
> > shipping
> > > confirmation as a proof that the package has
> > actually
> > > been sent (with all due respect, why should I
> > trust him?)
> > > , he is also not even so kind as to reply to my
> > e-mails.
> > > Of course, I am aware there is no way to get my
> > money
> > > back. I just want to warn you. Please think twice
> > before
> > > you order anything from the Michael Cottingham
> > Meteorite
> > > Collection.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards from Poland,
> > >
> > > Jakub Radwan
> > > Polish Meteoritical Society
> > >
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