[meteorite-list] meteorite coins and other ridiculous wastes oftime

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:29:09 +0200
Message-ID: <004401c77390$2f5d0a60$e46dfea9_at_name86d88d87e2>

Armando,

I don't know whether it's to indiscreet, but allow me a question:
What's your age?

Each collector, each museum, each lab can acquire from the meteorite dealers
partslices, fullslices, endcuts, whole stones and in most cases also the
main masses of those stones, where also micromounts are sold.

So where is your problem?
You don't want to buy small pieces, you don't want to buy large pieces,

therefore you obviously don't know, what you want

else than to complain.

That's a behaviour of an uneducated child.

Martin


-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Armando Afonso [mailto:armandoafonso at oniduo.pt]
Gesendet: Samstag, 31. M?rz 2007 13:46
An: Michael Farmer; Martin Altmann; 'Thaddeus Besedin';
meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite coins and other ridiculous wastes
oftime

Sorry Mike.
I am back OK, but in compensation, you are here all the time.
I forget all the time how sensitive you are...
Yes, it is ridiculous to make coins, frogs and Mickey mouses from
meteorites.
This materials deserve a bit more respect than that.
Ridiculous too, is to reduce interesting meteorites to dust, only to be
abble of selling them (in little bags of 1mg) to children. A piece of Mars,

wow!
I dont think that this is a service to science.
To collect this things is acceptable, but the specimen value should be
preserved.
This are rocks, so the texture and structural features should be visible in
the smallest specimens, or their pedagogic value is reduced to zero.
The chemical composition should be preserved.
Engine oil, acrylic resin substituting olivine do not comply with my
definition of cosmic material.
If the concern is the conservation of the meteorites, they should be
de-hidrated and stored in inert gases, maybe in nice glass containers, why
not?
Please excuse me again.
Warm regards.
AA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
To: "Armando Afonso" <armandoafonso at oniduo.pt>; "Martin Altmann"
<altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; "'Thaddeus Besedin'" <endophasy at yahoo.com>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite coins and other ridiculous wastes
oftime


> Armando is back, I knew it would not take long for him
> to start calling people names again.
> Michael Farmer
> --- Armando Afonso <armandoafonso at oniduo.pt> wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin.
>> You are nearly to be erradicated from the list,
>> acused of beeing a
>> comunist...
>> Each time I spoke against this and others
>> "scientific" uses of meteorites I
>> was insulted by the pirates.
>> I warned you.
>> AA
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
>> To: "'Thaddeus Besedin'" <endophasy at yahoo.com>;
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite coins and
>> other ridiculous wastes
>> oftime
>>
>>
>> Hi Thaddeus,
>>
>> what are your suggestions to improve those
>> circumstances?
>>
>> For me personally, it would be interesting, how many
>> of the list members
>> opine, that meteorites shouldn't be objects of
>> commerce.
>>
>> Can somebody set up a poll?
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
>> Im Auftrag von Thaddeus
>> Besedin
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. M?rz 2007 07:38
>> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Betreff: [meteorite-list] meteorite coins and other
>> ridiculous wastes of
>> time
>>
>> List,
>> Do we need Franklin Mint-esque coins to hype the
>> insuperable wonder of
>> actual meteoritic material free of made-to-order
>> home shopping network (no
>> trademark) gimmick?
>> These rank amongst the greatest achievements of Mike
>> Farmer, capitalist of
>> little self-control and imagination. Give us rocks,
>> and that's it: you sell
>> rocks. Collectors can become humorously obsessive
>> when all reference to our
>> target interests are accepted. Coins will distract
>> from oxidation,
>> reduction, recrystallization, and chondrules.
>> -Thaddeus Besedin
>>
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