[meteorite-list] Scame Safety Rules for the Meteorite Collector

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:02:32 +0100
Message-ID: <017401c87154$98b57700$177f2a59_at_name86d88d87e2>

Or for those to lazy to learn many rules:

Rule: Look for an IMCA-label in the auction,
if you don't know yet, who the reputable dealers & sellers are.

The chances to get an unauthentic piece from an IMCA-seller is extremely
low, if any problems will appear, IMCA will solve it in a fast, satisfying
and unbureaucratic manner, even if you aren't a member.

Btw. Have you noticed, that it's meanwhile extremely difficult, if not
almost impossible, to find an authentic Nantan offered on ebay by
non-IMCA-members?


Rule 6: don't believe that the firm called ebay will help you, they don't
care, whether an auction is fraudulent or not.

Rule 7 for sellers: If you are forced to use Paypal, never let a penny on
your Paypal-account, it is not safe. Paypal is notorious for acting
illegally.

(At present in Germany thousands of accounts are illegally blocked under
false pretences, and the clients are prompted by Paypal to divulge to Paypal
Ltd. data of third parties (customers, suppliers ect.), hence Paypal is
trying to prompt the account holders to break the actual data protection
laws. These data will be distributed by Paypal to roughly 30 other firms. If
the account holder would hand in these data to Paypal, he risks a fine up to
250,000Euro (367,000$). Therefore don't give Paypal these data, don't
discuss, but tell that you'll file charges and immediately your account will
be unlocked again.)

 Best!
Martin



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Don
Merchant
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Februar 2008 08:36
An: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Cc: dmerchan at rochester.rr.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Scame Safety Rules for the Meteorite Collector


Hi List. I understand that we as collectors are looking for that "DEAL of a
Lifetime on EBay" Unfortunately there are always that Unforeseen "Pothole",
"Bump in the Road" "Snake in the Grass and that "SCAM of all SCAMMERS" that
we may encounter as Meteorite Collectors, especially if we don" keep our
"GPS" on at ALL TIMES. As a collector/Dealer for many years I will pass on
some no brainier Rules that if you follow them, they may help many of you
(especially novices) avoid that SCAMMER or MISREPRESENTED Deal of a
Lifetime Meteorite!

RULE 1)--- Low Feedback of a Meteorite Seller equals Inexperience! PERIOD!.
My Motto---Less then 100 your gonna get BLUNDERED!

RULE 2)---Stay with the Tried and True. This means Deal ONLY with the those
Top Dealers-Remember their names and their EBay names PERIOD! Don't get me
wrong here. I understand we will have those collectors that occasionally
sell their meteorite (s) so as to upgrade to a bigger piece or who have run
into a financial dilemma. It happens. If that's the case---then--- if no COA

(Certificate of Authenticity) or Proof of Past Purchase from a reputable
source (Original Identification Card, Paperwork ect.) DON'T BID. PERIOD!.
Move on.

RULE 3)--- ASK QUESTIONS! Email the individual. Ask for proof. Ask who they
purchased that piece from. Ask for solid conformation that the piece they
are selling is a confirmed a Meteorite. Have them email/fax a copy of it. If

they can't SUBSTANTIATE-- DON'T NEGOTIATE!!

RULE 4)--- PATIENCE, PATIENCE, PATIENCE. Don't ever feel that this is the
last chance to get a meteorite for that LOW once in a lifetime PRICE!!
Remember "You Get What You Pay For" Shop around! Check out the different
"REPUTABLE METEORITE SITES" and compare prices. It is very easy to fall into

the "Red Flag I'm with Stupid Club" If something seems FISHY-- IT IS!

RULE 5)--- We here on the List are Family. We take care of our Family. If
you see something NOT RIGHT ***REPORT IT*** We have some excellent people
here on this LIST that can smell a Fart in the WIND 4 Miles away!! So Use
this Resource. PERIOD! That is why we are here. If you choose to IGNORE --
Then your cash is out the DOOR!

So in Closing--Keep your eyes open, follow your instincts, and keep that
wallet closed until you know all is legit. Most auctions last 6 days. More
then enough time to research or contact the List to warn and or to avoid a
trip down the road with STUPID and his twin brother STUPID!! If you decide
to join the STUPID CLUB that's your choice. Just don't put that piece of COW

CHIP you purchased back on EBay as all EYES will be watching YOU!!

Sincerely
Don Merchant
IMCA #0960

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