[meteorite-list] ADS Cottingham

From: Goran Axelsson <axelsson_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:14:48 +0100
Message-ID: <4982FD48.6070806_at_acc.umu.se>

I haven't spoken up before about multiple ads but it's been close a
couple of times. I have to admit it's a bit annoying when there are a
lot of ads from one seller. If one seller keeps sending multiple ads to
the list it won't swamp the list, but if all sellers starts to do it
then it will become a sales channel, not a meteorite list.

Just because people doesn't speak up it doesn't mean they are happy to
get a lot of ads.

I'm fully aware that sometimes it could be warranted with more than one
message per week but I would like to see that over time it would average
to one ad per week per seller. That ought to be enough.

As for Cottinghams ads, I'm now really tired of them and usually doesn't
even bother to read them as they are so common. That's a bit sad as I
bought one of my finest meteorites from him.
Michael, we all know that you have a lot of meteorites in your ebay
store, you don't need to remind us about it several times per week. Just
tell us when you have something really special or new.
No, I haven't counted ads, it's just the feeling I have that you keep
pushing the same thing time after time. Maybe I'm wrong but I have
decided that I don't have the time to read your ads any longer, there
are more interesting sellers on the list.

I guess that I'm part of that 1% too.

Goran

Ed Deckert wrote:
> I have no problem with receiving more than one Advertisement email per
> week from Michael, or anyone else for that matter. I frequently take
> up Michael's invitation to make an offer, and sometimes I do luck out
> and get a fantastic deal.
>
> But that's me, and I guess each of us gets their buttons pushed a
> little bit differently from each other.
>
> I do not mind getting private emails from Michael and others
> announcing sales and deals. Maybe that's the way to go? That is,
> with the recipient's permission, of course.
>
> Hey - if I can get a good deal on something, I'm all for that!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Ed Deckert
> IMCA #8911
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael cottingham"
> <mikewren at gilanet.com>
> To: "Mark Grossman" <markig at westnet.com>
> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ADS Cottingham
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I agree with most of what you say. It is good to wait and have patience.
>
> I offer all kinds of sales.
>
> Set prices in my ebay store
>
> 10% to 30% off sales, sometimes more.
>
> And 0.99 cents auction about every 2 weeks.
>
> Sometimes items can be bought for less if you wait. Other times there
> is no time to wait because it is limited in quantity.
>
> Over all, most of my customers are repeat buyers who know prices go up
> and down, but I know they get great deals in the long run and most
> probably do the math and know that in the long run they get GREAT
> prices from me. Also, it is funny when I have a 30% off sale for
> several days and when I have advertised it, but it is the day after
> the sale ends that a lot of pieces sell for full price.... figure that
> one out!
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Michael Cottingham
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Mark Grossman wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have mixed feelings on this.
>>
>> I don't have any objections at all to the number of ads posted. Two
>> or three
>> a week - its not five or ten a day.
>>
>> However, it's all those sales that are a bit problematic. 10 -20 or
>> more
>> percent off fairly quickly after the original items are first listed
>> for
>> sale.
>>
>> You see something you like, you buy it, and then find out you could
>> have
>> gotten it significantly lower if you had waited a few days. This has
>> happened to me twice.
>>
>> I know the sales are intended to benefit both buyer and seller, but
>> when
>> there are so many of them, how does that make the buyer feel who
>> overpaid
>> for an item?
>>
>> Is the lesson to be learned don't buy what you like when you first
>> see it,
>> because if you wait, you will almost certainly get it cheaper?
>>
>> Don't get me wrong. Michael has some great stuff for sale. But those
>> prices coming down so quickly - next time I will try waiting before
>> I buy.
>>
>> Sometimes sales, which are supposed to attract buyers, can have the
>> reverse
>> effect too.
>>
>> Mark Grossman
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "michael cottingham" <mikewren at gilanet.com>
>> To: "michael cottingham" <mikewren at gilanet.com>
>> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ADS Cottingham
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I also do not get it. I have been on this list for 10 years and I
>> never once, have I cared about too many ads. I mean it really is a non-
>> issue for most.
>>
>> Michael
>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 7:14 PM, michael cottingham wrote:
>>
>>> Do you really have nothing better to do? Enough. 99% of the people
>>> on the list- want ads, they want meteorites, they want to know what
>>> is for sale, they are busy and they want to be reminded. You have
>>> some tattle-tale like mentality. YOU can block my emails and then
>>> rest easy.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 7:02 PM, bill kies wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like you're counting now! Very good. You understand the
>>>> concept of twice. That's a good start. I thought you could'nt count
>>>> at all. I'm always happy to help. Maybe you should appoint one of
>>>> us to count for you if you're too distracted to keep track of all
>>>> these silly rules.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Why don't you stop reposting my add over and over! I appreciate the
>>>> extra exposure, but that is enough ads this week. I think between you
>>>> and Greg, you have reposted me twice. Thanks, but that is even more
>>>> than I care to do.
>>>> Best Wishes
Received on Fri 30 Jan 2009 08:14:48 AM PST


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