[meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl Esparza

From: MeteorHntr at aol.com <MeteorHntr_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:52:41 EDT
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Carl, Anne and Mike,

I am a bit bewildered about this as well.

If Carl had asked what car Farmer drove because he wanted to slit his car
tires, that would be one thing. But I don't think that is the case here.

When I was at West hunting, and finding lots of rocks, would I ever think
someone was doing something unethical if someone asked what car I was
driving or where I was parked and hunting? No. Would I want them to know? Not
always. So sometimes I would hide my car, or take someone else's to a
hunting spot.

If someone found my car, would I be mad at them? No. Would I file an
ethics complaint with the IMCA? No.

In fact, one afternoon I returned from a field near where we had pulled a
lot of West stones out, only to see Farmer standing by my car waiting.
Others around said he was waiting there for over a half hour to talk with me.
Did he do anything unethical by doing that? I don't think so.

Did that make me want to share all my strewnfield data with Mike even
though he was almost crying on the this list begging for me to share it? No,
his attitude made me want to keep my info even more secret.

I find it flattering that Mike finally comes around to my way of thinking
as he gains more experience, as he has in this case.

Mike calls this a "Blood sport" but turns around and cries "foul" when
someone wants to know what car he is driving? Interesting.

(This is where I would normally insert a humorous insult towards Mike, but
I want the record to show that I have refrained from doing so.)

Steve Arnold
of "Meteorite Men"




In a message dated 7/17/2009 1:27:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
cdtucson at cox.net writes:
Anne,
It is hard to believe that you would put this on the list.
Respectfully , this is not Jack's find. Sure Jack can claim ownership of
his finds and nobody is going to take them away from him but give us all a
break here. This is a fall that was observed by dozens of people and there
are dozens of us out looking for evidence of it. I don't think this hit Jack
on the head. I think he also had to figure this out. Why is he any better
than the rest of us???? I simply asked what Mike drives as verification but
obviously I had already figured out the general area. Cat Mountain was also
 this big secret that I had to do a lot of work to find out where it was. I
then shared this info with others and it resulted in the discovery of
Snyder Hill while they were looking. This is all good and if you don't agree I
am sorry but How can you say that this is Jack's find???? That is
ridiculous!
I did not post the location but I did ask Mike if I could help earlier and
he rejected me. This would have made this location confidential. Now I'm
not so sure? And Jack never personally even bothered to respond to my list
posts and requests to help. As you know I offered to rescue these critters
before they drown in the rains. They said no.
I don't know what material is left to be found but hopefully now more will
be found before they do drown. Again this is all good.
PS what is your call on the leak of a private email your Honor?

--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
IMCA 5829
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Received on Fri 17 Jul 2009 02:52:41 PM PDT