[meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canadato Morocco

From: Rob Lenssen <rlenssen_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:20:08 +0100
Message-ID: <349A6ACB96E04A97A5062C222DF1E623_at_EIGENAARNJEQJY>

Hi Melanie,

I made several deals with Abdellah Afiniss over the last years, and learned
to know him as a very kind and trustworthy dealer.
I'm sure he will make you a happy customer.

Kind regards,
Rob Lenssen
IMCA #1681


----- Original Message -----
From: "Melanie Matthews" <spacewoman2775 at hotmail.com>
To: "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canadato
Morocco


>
> Hi Brian, listers.
> Actually it was a postal money order that I
> mailed out to him (Mr. Abdellah Afiniss), and yes it included the cost
> of the stones plus the shipping costs. I asked him to mail it back to
> me and he said he did.
>
> Once I get the slip back I'm going to
> get back the money I put onto it and re-send the payment to him -
> probably via Moneygram (which he told me he accepts).
>
>
>
> At first offered me a lot total of 8.5 kgs of chondrites (all
> unclassified),, knowing full well I couldn't afford all that I circled
> some stones in Paint.net (free image editing program similar to
> MSPaint) that I wanted in the photographs, emailed back to him and
> kindly asked him to send me images of each meteorite I picked sitting
> on the scale to show their weights... I then worked out the prices
> until I made the final decition on buying five rocks together weighing
> 837 grams..
>
>
>
> As I said he has been very cooperative, and I thanks him and I thank all
> here on the list for their input/suggestions!
>
> -----------
> Melanie
> IMCA: 2975
> eBay: metmel2775
> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
>
> Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know
> what you're gonna get!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> From: searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net
>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:56:13 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best ways to send payments from Canada to
>> Morocco
>>
>> Hello Melanie and list,
>>
>> In regards to your question of sending payments to Morocco, I have to ask
>> a
>> couple of questions and others also mentioned they weren't clear on your
>> question since you didn't seem to be including shipping costs. I'd like
>> to
>> help you out and I mean this in the most thoughtful and kindest way
>> possible, so please don't take it negatively or have any anger towards
>> me.
>> Make sure you include shipping costs when you were determining the total
>> amount of the payment you need to send to the seller and then send a
>> check
>> and then say you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping costs if that is what
>> you agreed to buy from the seller? You have said this in the past about
>> not
>> having money to pay for something or to pay for the shipping costs. It's
>> good to ask for help if you are not experienced in sending payments
>> outside
>> of Canada beyond Paypal. This sounds like you decided to send a check for
>> the meteorites and then were going to decide about a payment for the
>> "shipping" as a separate payment or to pay for shipping later on. Is this
>> why you stated you couldn't afford the FedEx shipping costs after you had
>> sent your personal Canadian paper check? This doesn't sound right why you
>> wouldn't determine the full amount due to the seller for the items with
>> shipping and or insurance and then send one payment and later decide you
>> couldn't afford the shipping costs they gave you.
>>
>> Also, you stated you sent a "Paper Check" which, as I am thinking is a
>> "personal check" from your personal Canadian bank account by what you
>> wrote.
>> I'm confused to why would you think that a personal check from your
>> Canadian
>> bank account would be "valid" as you say, to a dealer in Morocco, which I
>> am
>> sure it is valid in Canada and you have money in your account, but most
>> likely would not be accepted in Morocco or any other country? You don't
>> often hear of dealers in Asia, Africa, Europe or for the most part any
>> dealers in the U.S. or anywhere in North or South America or Australia
>> that
>> would accept a personal Paper check from a bank in a different country,
>> although it may happen. A check from a Canadian bank account or from a
>> U.S.
>> bank account or any personal paper check from any other country most
>> likely
>> won't be accepted unless they verified with their bank first that they
>> could
>> accept that check. An example would be if there was Citibank in Canada
>> and
>> then Citibank in the U.S. would accept that check or Citibank in England,
>> etc. .I'm sure if the check was from a bank that had a branch in that
>> country that it would be accepted, but it usually creates a hassle and is
>> time consuming to stand in line or through an ATM. As several members
>> mentioned bank wire is the safest and then probably FedEx payment, but
>> sending a paper check or money order isn't a good idea as Gary mentioned.
>>
>> I would like to offer a friendly suggestion to help you out. Please make
>> sure you discuss all the facts and figures with any dealer/collector
>> anywhere in the world before closing a deal. Remember you are entering a
>> contract with this dealer, whether it is on ebay or through their website
>> or
>> through correspondence with the dealer. On ebay this is stated as you are
>> entering a contract so be mindful of this. You need to finalize all
>> costs.
>> You need to get the full amount that you owe in writing, email, etc. for
>> the
>> meteorites and any insurance and shipping and then you need to first
>> discuss
>> the method of payment to that dealer before you send any payment. I think
>> your first mistake here was that it sounds as if you didn't determine the
>> full costs of the meteorites with shipping, then you didn't ask the
>> seller
>> if he or she would accept a "Personal Paper Check from another country. I
>> think you will have much better luck and increase good relations with
>> dealers through online sales, ebay and through the different meteorite
>> lists
>> you if you slow down and get the facts before making purchases and
>> payments.
>>
>> As you have written on your posts the equivalent of The Tom Hanks
>> character
>> from the Forest Gump movie, "Life is like a box of chocolates." You need
>> to stop and think that your eyes are bigger than your stomach and stop
>> and
>> think of what you are wanting to bid on or buy first and how to pay for
>> it.
>> There is an old saying in America that you may or may not know in Canada.
>> "Your eyes are bigger than your stomach" which roughly means you saw the
>> food on the menu and you ordered all that looked good to eat, but your
>> stomach wasn't big enough to eat it all and you became very full before
>> you
>> could finish the meal. This is the same as the child that fills their
>> plate
>> up and can't eat it all at home. This also goes along with shopping at
>> the
>> store when you are hungry and buying too much, as in buying more goodies
>> than you needed. In this case looking at meteorites you want to buy and
>> then
>> not carefully researching making a payment and then feeling full of
>> frustration and aggravation at how to make the payment or what road to go
>> down. I truly hope this helps in the future.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Best ways to send payments from Canada to Morocco
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> Please help - I mailed a payment to a Moroccan dealer for a lot of
>> chondrites via a paper check, he got it today, but he told me that the
>> banks
>> over there don't recognize it even though it is completely valid. I can't
>> afford the shipping costs through FedEx for the lot I want - which will
>> be
>> over $200 CND... so what other less expensive options do you suggest?
>>
>> Thank you in advance
>>
>> -----------
>> Melanie
>> IMCA: 2975
>> eBay: metmel2775
>> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
>>
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