[meteorite-list] They're Leprechauns!

From: GREG LINDH <geeg48_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:57:55 -0700
Message-ID: <BLU125-W25682B3FB39740650CFCC3C9E70_at_phx.gbl>

 
    Phil,
 
  Personally, I like your posts. Keep them coming.
 
 
  Greg Lindh
 
 
 

> From: prairiecactus at rtcol.com
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:24:53 -0400
> Subject: [meteorite-list] They're Leprechauns!
>
> Darren & late night Listoidians:
>
> There exists today, a prevelant belief in outer space aliens living in
> advanced technological civilizations. A majority of Americans inexplicably
> believes that they have visited us. This belief is prevelant amongst the
> vast majority of scientists. A NASA scientist who walked on the moon
> believes they are living and working amongst us in all walks of life.
>
> Belief in imaginary beings is an interesting psychological phenomenon.
> Through the ages there has been much interest in elves, fairies, trolls,
> dwarves, ghosts, succubi, incubi, mermaids, what have you. I don't think
> though that at any time in history has there ever been anything like the
> overwhelming cultural acceptance of the unsubstantiated belief in outer
> space aliens. The only thing that even comes close is the belief in angels
> in the 1200's, and maybe witches in the 1600's. Completely hypothetical
> mental constructions, and yet they are believed by vast majorities.
> Questioning this belief is like arguing the Immaculate Conception with a
> Catholic. Neither side will ever win the argument.
>
> I can understand that it's comforting to believe in advanced civilizations
> in outer space. Humans are pack animals, living in bee hives. It's sad,
> lonely and forlorn to feel we are all alone. Maybe one day these beings
> will appear out of the sky and save us from ourselves, like Jesus or
> Mohammed, or maybe they'll just kill and eat us. I hear humans taste like
> pork.
>
> And yes, the ancient Chinese conceptualized going to the moon, it was right
> around the time they made mankind's first record of a solar eclipse.
>
> Why do I feel like a heathen being proselytized?
>
> Phil Whitmer
>
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:16:11 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>>Just once, I'd like to read one of these articles that doesn't include the
>
>>grains of sand analogy.
>
>
> At least they are using something similar to sound reasoning skills.
>
> Here's an analogy for your "thought" process:
>
> You have two books-- you read the first chapter of the first book, note that
> nobody has been mysteriously murdered yet. You toss away the first book. You
> read the title second book-- the word "murder" is nowhere it the title. You
> toss away the second book. You decide that, therefore, there is no rational
> reason to believe that any book anywhere might be a murder mystery.
>
> The biological sciences are very, very young. And very, very little of Mars
> has
> been explored. And yet you make the claim that "scientists are too dumb to
> understand abiogenisis" as if the current state of science is the end of all
> human knowledge when in fact it is barely the beginning. And that the few
> tinker-toys we have sent to Mars so far (as cool as they may be) preclude
> that
> Mars ever did support life (or Venus for that instance.) You then take those
> very very, very early sets of data and reach the conclusion that there is no
> other life in the universe.
>
> You may think that is rational thinking. But it is a very long way from
> rational thinking.
>
> And THEN you make a post where you think that maybe the Chinese visited the
> moon
> thousands of years ago?
>
> And you praise ancient philosophers who spent their lives speculating on the
> nature of reality, while calling the people on the list who want to
> speculate on
> the nature of reality "mental masturbators", and call the conversations
> "stupid"?
>
> And you continue to construct straw men to attack for everyone who makes a
> misguided attempt at reasoning with you.
>
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