[meteorite-list] Museum investigation: 'Probably a rock, not meteorite'

From: Richard Kowalski <damoclid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:07:59 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <897444.8733.qm_at_web113618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I'd argue that a meteoroid becomes a meteor as soon as becomes incandescent and it becomes a meteorite at instant incandescence ends.

--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081
--- On Tue, 4/13/10, Yinan Wang <veomega at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Yinan Wang <veomega at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Museum investigation: 'Probably a rock, not  meteorite'
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 2:29 PM
> "Then, on the bounce, it touches the
> Earth and becomes the Property of
> The State."
> 
> So if a meteoroid embeds itself into your car, or you catch
> it before
> it hits the ground (ya, improbable as it seems), or if
> bounces off a
> cow and you catch it, does it belong to you now since it
> did not
> become a meteorite?
> 
> - YvW
> 
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Sterling K. Webb
> <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> > Any lawyer could argue his way out of this
> > dilema with one simple slip. The "meteorite,"
> > while falling, is a meteoroid, not a meteorite,
> > hence it is under God's jurisdiction.
> >
> > You, your car, your house, your dead dog
> > (or cow) are not the Earth. The meteorite only
> > becomes a meteorite when it touches the
> > Earth, after killing you, perforating your
> > car, smashing your house, or killing your
> > dog. Then, on the bounce, it touches the
> > Earth and becomes the Property of The State.
> >
> > No harm, no fault. Hand it over, please.
> >
> >
> > Sterling K. Webb
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <ensoramanda at ntlworld.com>
> > To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>;
> "Martin Altmann"
> > <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Museum investigation:
> 'Probably a rock, not
> > meteorite'
> >
> >
> >> Interesting thought Martin...
> >>
> >> I wonder what their position would be regarding a
> meteorite (that belonged
> >> to the state) hitting and injuring/killing
> somebody?
> >>
> >> Graham, UK
> >>
> >> ---- Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "A lot of people find slag out of glass
> furnaces and think they are
> >>> meteorites as well, they kind of look the
> same."
> >>>
> >>> Because those people finding real meteorites,
> lunars and Martians aren't
> >>> coming to Australia. ?:-(
> >>>
> >>> Why?
> >>>
> >>> Because: "if it was
> >>> a meteor it belongs to the WA Government".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Other question, would WA Government have paid
> the fixing of the roof, if
> >>> it
> >>> would have been a meteorite?
> >>> I mean, then the damage would have caused by a
> property of the state,
> >>> wouldn't it?
> >>>
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> >>> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> >>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> Im Auftrag von Jeff
> >>> Kuyken
> >>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. April 2010 16:35
> >>> An: meteorite list
> >>> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Museum
> investigation: 'Probably a rock,not
> >>> meteorite'
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/special-features/museum-investigates-meteori
> >>> te-claims/story-e6frg1ac-1225837470139
> >>>
> >>> Museum investigation: 'Probably a rock, not
> meteorite'
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> SCIENTISTS investigating claims a meteor
> fragment the size of a cricket
> >>> ball
> >>>
> >>> collided into a WA house have confirmed it was
> almost certainly a rock.
> >>> The
> >>> object hit the roof of the home about 4pm on
> Thursday in the
> >>> north-eastern
> >>> Perth suburb of Beechboro.
> >>>
> >>> A female occupant thought it was a meteor.
> >>>
> >>> The WA Museum today said the object may have
> fallen from a plane lowering
> >>> its landing gear.
> >>>
> >>> The museum's head of Earth and Planetary
> Sciences, Dr Alex Bevan,
> >>> yesterday
> >>> inspected the object, which he did not suspect
> was from outer space.
> >>>
> >>> "Alex did have a look at some photos of the
> object, but when he did look
> >>> at
> >>> it in person, he did not think it was from a
> meteorite," a museum
> >>> spokesperson said.
> >>>
> >>> "Sometimes rocks get caught in the wheels of
> planes and as they are
> >>> lowering
> >>>
> >>> their gear they may fall, we just don't
> know."
> >>>
> >>> Perth Observatory said it had received a
> "couple of reports" on Thursday
> >>> night from people phoning to say they had seen
> a light in the sky.
> >>>
> >>> "At this stage no one seems to be able to put
> it all together, but if it
> >>> was
> >>>
> >>> a meteor it belongs to the WA Government,
> observatory astronomer Ralph
> >>> Martyn said.
> >>>
> >>> "The reports at this stage are very sketchy."
> >>>
> >>> He said the observatory was waiting to inspect
> a photograph of the
> >>> object.
> >>>
> >>> "A lot of people find slag out of glass
> furnaces and think they are
> >>> meteorites as well, they kind of look the
> same."
> >>>
> >>>
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