[meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale

From: cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:22:07 -0400
Message-ID: <20100425142207.9T8X7.127159.imail_at_fed1rmwml35>

Warren, Steve, List,
This is insane. IMHO it does not speak to the value of the other meteorite finds at all. Unless all things are equal?
Provenance is King here.
1). This is from the "meteorite men" Himself.. People will pay more because it is a Steve "self find".
2). If Bob Haag had found this it might be worth even more.
3). First sale ( offering) on eBay of this material. The ist's are always a premium. ie. biggest, etc.
4). Was featured on the news and likely on next season's show.
5). Early recovery. No weathering.
6). No other meteorites from this fall will have the same impact as this one. Except maybe the hammer stone from shed.
7). This in No way reflects the true value except for this sale and by Steve.
8). The implication is that now Farmers will prefer Steve as a partner unless others do offer these stupid prices as well.
9). Steve is showing signs of true brilliance here.
Sorry Steve, Just stating the obvious here.
Will you sell my finds for me If I find any?
 Carl

--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
---- Warren Sansoucie <warren3174 at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Steve's first auction just closed at around $538.00 per gram.  0.117 sample closed at $63.00
>  
>  
> I wonder if it comes with a free hunting demo from Jeff and a fruit basket at Christmas time?
>  
> :)
> Warren Sansoucie
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:28:28 -0400
> > From: countdeiro at earthlink.net
> > To: ensoramanda at ntlworld.com; mrmeteorite at gmail.com; meteoritefinder at gmail.com
> > CC: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
> >
> > I already offered Ruben $5. He said thanks.
> > Guido
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >>From: ensoramanda at ntlworld.com
> >>Sent: Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM
> >>To: Ruben Garcia , Mike Miller 
> >>Cc: Meteorite-list , Brian Cox 
> >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
> >>
> >>Hi Ruben,
> >>
> >>I'm sure if it was a private sale and the cost price per gram was not revealed then that would not upset any one...so I shouldn't worry.
> >>
> >>I could solve the whole problem for you and those still out there though.
> >>I'll buy the stone you showed for $5/g and we can make sure it gets really well known out in Livingstone...then everybody will be happy ;-)
> >>
> >>Great work by the way Ruben/Hopper
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Graham, UK
> >>
> >>---- Ruben Garcia wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have
> >>> started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a
> >>> dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale.
> >>>
> >>> The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth
> >>> x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you
> >>> find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land
> >>> owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that
> >>> Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g.
> >>>
> >>> I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else
> >>> could be hurt by my actions.
> >>>
> >>> My sincere apologies to all still in the field!
> >>>
> >>> Ruben Garcia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller wrote:
> >>>> Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on
> >>>> this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the
> >>>> standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out
> >>>> over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the
> >>>> meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and
> >>>> dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same
> >>>> situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price
> >>>> while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly
> >>>> Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one
> >>>> out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is
> >>>> now saying he must do.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their
> >>>>> meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever
> >>>>> and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by
> >>>>> silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what
> >>>>> the market will set that price at.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Either way it's done just please remember that we are a "Small Group" and
> >>>>> should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes
> >>>>> argue about the processes and procedures we go through.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's
> >>>>> websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly
> >>>>> try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be
> >>>>> respectful of one another.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Enjoy the weekend everyone.
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401
> >>>> www.meteoritefinder.com
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> >>> --
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> >>>
> >>> Ruben Garcia
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