[meteorite-list] Lorton meteorite should be 'the people's rock'

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:48:58 +0100
Message-ID: <004401caa68b$9a7208b0$07b22959_at_name86d88d87e2>

Well... whether it was an ownerless object, whether it became part of the
ground....

I have a question:

How could we and science survive 200 years,
how could Homo Sapiens survive 200,000 years
and how could survive this planet 4 500 000 000 years

without any law about ownership of meteorites ?



Martin

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Alan
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Carl and Listers

Again can you please give me an example of someone owning the fall of a
meteorite thats relates to the Lorton meteorite.

As for the Lorton meteorite the meteorite didnt find the Dr's they found the
meteorite. They didnt find the fall of the meteorite because the meteorite
had fallen and hit the surface and ended its path in the Dr's office on the
ground where the Dr's found the meteorite. The Dr's in question dont own the
office they lease the space.

Lastly, you keep falling back on this fall question. Now in your own words
or in a good source can you define what the ownership of the fall of a
meteorite is?

Shawn Alan




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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Lorton meteorite should be 'the people's rock'
Friday, February 5, 2010 8:42 AM
From:
cdtucson at cox.net
To:
photophlow at yahoo.com
Cc:
meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Shawn,
As silly as it sounds, there are people who believe there is a difference
between a "fall" and a"find". And although these seven words (A "find" is
owned by the landowner) might define ownership of a find. It does not
address the ownership of a fall. I think the Hodges case did address this
issue but often times the courts do reverse previous decisions.For an
example of real property ownership;
In real estate, property is described based on ownership boundaries. For
example;
In ownership of a condominium you really only do own the air space (
sometimes they are high rise buildings). You own the paint on the wall but
not the wall itself. You really don't own outright any real property (land)
. The association which you are a part of owns the land but not a single
individual.
In a town home you do own the inside half of the walls that separate the
units but not the exterior of the building or the roof.
I guess we need to see the actual statute to see if it addresses falls or
not to be sure and it might be more than seven words long.
But, lets say for argument sake that this meteorite never hits land. This is
the case with Lorton but what if it hit a car parked on land and remained
100% within the car? What has the land owner to do with this? It never hit
land. This is why air space comes into play.
In the Lorton case it never hit land either. This makes it complicated. The
doctors actually did not find the meteorite. It found them.
Again, a find is clear but a fall is not. IMO At least not clear based on a
weak seven words used above. Carl

--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
---- photophlow at yahoo.com wrote:
> Carl and Listers,
>
> The example I gave might be half weak in your eyes, but the fact of the
matter is that it states that the landowner is entitled to the meteorite.
>
> Now the answer to your question about who is entitled to the fall in
question and not the find is weak. What is in question is the ownership of
the meteorite not the fall of the meteorite. Can you please give me an
example of someone owning the fall of the meteorite?
>
> A meteorite comes into question of ownership once it has impacted the the
surface or there of not while its in flight.
>
> Shawn Alan
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