[meteorite-list] Some meteorite words

From: Meteorites USA <eric_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:58:22 -0800
Message-ID: <4B5E3E2E.3050005_at_meteoritesusa.com>

Though I disagree with Jason's opinion and would love to debate this
issue in a public forum, I'm reasonably sure this has absolutely NOTHING
to do with meteorites.

Can we please get back on topic...?

Regards,
Eric



On 1/25/2010 4:08 PM, Jason Utas wrote:
> An interesting argument, but one that has been refuted many times.
> The problem is that such occurrences are the exception the the rule,
> and studies show that, in general, guns actually cause more harm than
> good; either the people who choose own them are simply twice as likely
> to commit suicide, or the gun somehow increases the odds of their
> killing themselves by twofold, but the fact of the matter is that
> people who keep guns in their houses are significantly more likely to
> die of both suicide -- and of homicide than are their "helpless,"
> unarmed counterparts.
> Never mind the fact that keeping guns illegal and out of mainstream
> use has maintained correspondingly low gun-crime rates in European
> countries.
>
> As you can see in the websites below.
>
> http://www.guninformation.org/
>
> http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm
>
> You've got to put things in context. Just noting one instance where a
> friend or family member has used a gun to defend his or herself
> ignores the real issue; and saying crap like "guns don't kill people,
> people kill people" is just BS. I'm glad your aunt is safe, but, as
> has been said, her situation was the exception to the norm.
>
> I've seen this around - "Glasses don't see, eyes see."
> By your logic, we should abolish glasses because they really don't do
> anything to help people see.
>
> Ugh.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Greg Catterton
> <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Venturing off topic here and to a touch subject with many I am sure, but I would like to add a thought...
>>
>> My aunt was almost raped several years ago by a known rapist who broke into her house... the only thing that prevented it was the fact she was able to get to my uncles handgun and defend herself. Try to tell her firearms are bad, it probably saved her life, without a doubt, it saved her from severe mental and physical harm.
>>
>> In a world where there is restrictive gun laws and everyday citizens are not allowed to keep firearms, only the law breakers will have them.
>> Does a world full of gun carrying criminals scare you more then law abiding people PROPERLY traind in safe gun handling?
>>
>> Have you ever heard of 2 people getting into a fight and one of them go to a car and get a gun? Have you ever seen 2 guns get into a fight and one of them go to get a person?
>>
>> Guns dont kill, people do. People get stabbed to death all the time, should butter knives be illegal? What about baseball bats?
>>
>> A firearm is a tool just the same as a hammer, an axe or any other object.
>> What makes it "bad" is the person who holds it.
>>
>> Just my opinions.
>>
>> Hope everyone is doing well, have fun in Tucson, wish I could have made it this year!
>>
>> Greg C.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 1/25/10, Impactika at aol.com<Impactika at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> From: Impactika at aol.com<Impactika at aol.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Some meteorite words
>>> To: valparint at aol.com, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 1:16 PM
>>> Oh no, you won't!
>>> Not in Room 230 in the InnSuites, no you won't.
>>> I don't allow those "things" in my home and I won't allow
>>> them there either.
>>> I agree with Larry. There is no room for guns in a polite
>>> society.
>>>
>>> Anne M. Black
>>> _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
>>> _IMPACTIKA at aol.com_
>>> (mailto:IMPACTIKA at aol.com)
>>>
>>> Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
>>> _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 1/25/2010 8:45:25 AM Mountain Standard
>>> Time,
>>> valparint at aol.com
>>> writes:
>>> No worries, Graham.
>>>
>>> You won't need a permit to carry your sidearm. You can
>>> carry it in the open.
>>>
>>> Although many are unable to recognize it, an armed society
>>> is a polite
>>> society.
>>>
>>> Paul Swartz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Graham:
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately (in my opinion), with a permit, you could
>>>>
>>> walk around the
>>>
>>>> show with a sidearm or a bullwhip.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>
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