[meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

From: countdeiro at earthlink.net <countdeiro_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:03:12 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <10827643.1267459392670.JavaMail.root_at_wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hello Sergey and List,

My compliments Sergey. What a fine archive and resource you hard work has produced. Your example and the learned comments of the others on the List has shown me the error of my ways.

Meteorites and related specimens should not be marked, or marred in anyway except for preparation, analysis and distribution. I failed to notice the way diamonds are identified by the GIA (Gemological Institute of America). Specimens are photographed,weighed and measured with the identification placed on a disc with saved hardcopy...like you are doing with your database.

It is true that some diamond merchants have etched ID numbers on the girdle of a stone because gem stones can be today easily altered through substitution with imitations, radiation, laser removal of inclusions, doubling and "yehudi". I have never heard of the alteration of a meteorite.

Again my compliments and thanks for your sharing your work,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

  

-----Original Message-----
>From: Sergey Vasiliev <vs.petrovich at gmail.com>
>Sent: Mar 1, 2010 2:51 AM
>To: Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>, Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens
>
>Hi Martin, List,
>
>1. I just want to let you know that every specimen in EoM
>(http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/)
>has it's own and unique id number!
>I'm not saying that storing specimen info in EoM is a perfect solution for
>every
>collector. But with some extensions it might be an idea to think about.
>
>2. I want to introduce my new project:
>http://labels.sv-meteorites.com/
>It is just a start.
>My big THANKS! to all who already joined the project and shared their
>images and information!
>Any comments, suggestions and new information will be very appreciated!
>
>Best regards,
>Sergey
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]On Behalf Of Martin
>Altmann
>Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:15 PM
>To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens
>
>
>Me too,
>
>as a professional I'm aware of the rareness of meteoritic specimens,
>sometimes they are unique and irreplaceable - and I'm aware of the often
>enormous endeavours it took, to recover such stones and the circumstances
>until they finally landed in my custody (yes also for the 20$-ebay-bogey).
>
>I simply feel myself not important enough, to deteriorate a meteoritic
>specimen in branding it, like a dog marks his property.
>
>Today we have simpler and more gentle means to keep a specimen identifiable.
>Take a simple digital camera, a lamp or the sun, a scale cube, a scale and a
>simple data base - all that costs today almost no money.
>Don't forget to print out your documentation from time to time, the
>electronic data storage media aren't made for eternity.
>
>It takes some time, yes. But more time it took for the material to form and
>to travel to Earth and to be found to end in your drawer.
>And more time it takes, to keep your collection free from oxidation,
>and anyway a good documentation belongs to the collector's duties to curate
>his meteorite collection.
>
>To apply stickers, to paint numbers on meteorites, isn't in my eyes a modern
>way of documentation and should be avoided.
>
>Best!
>Martin
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von The
>Tricottet Collection
>Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. Februar 2010 10:52
>An: MeteoriteList
>Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens
>
>
>Hello,
>
>I would like to disagree with everyone here. If we all start painting
>numbers on meteorites, in 2-3 generations, all specimens will be full of
>useless graffiti - who will know which number matches which "minor"
>collection? So the problem would remain exactly the same. When I say
>"minor", I mean not a lot of people have a collection which can be compared
>to a Nininger, Monnig or any national museum collection! And with time, with
>more maturity, what if you find your inventory numbering system inefficient,
>what if you decide to change it?
>
>Personally I will never paint anything on my collection specimens. I prefer
>to take 1 or more pictures per specimen + weight + other important
>characteristics, label them and keep then in different boxes.
>
>Just my opinion,
>
>Best,
>Arnaud
>
>
>
>
>
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