[meteorite-list] large expansion of fine website with global images and sensible ideas re Holocene ice comet fragment impacts: Pierson Barretto: Rich Murray 2010.09.24

From: Rich Murray <rmforall_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:07:11 -0600
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large expansion of fine website with global images and sensible ideas re
Holocene ice comet fragment impacts: Pierson Barretto: Rich Murray
2010.09.24
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2010_09_01_archive.htm
Friday, September 24, 2010
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I hope in a few weeks to be set up to put many ground photos I've taken with
my BlackBerry on www.Dropbox.com for free for everyone -- meanwhile Pierson
Barretto in Brazil, a dedicated amateur astronomer, active for years in
their societies, has continued placing wonderful images and original, well
thought out ideas, dramatically showing the worldwide profusion of similar
fractal fields of shallow craters -- time to see for yourself!

https://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/

https://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/impact-craters/end-pleistocene-palaeolagoons

https://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/impact-craters/holocene-palaeolagoons

https://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/impact-craters/palaeolagoon-geometry
[ Excerpts, without the wonderful images... ]

The elliptical lake Cheko, a cosmic scar formed during the Tunguska event,
in 1908 on Russia.

http://maps.google.com.br/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=pt-BR&geocode=&q=60.966555,+101.861228&sll=-14.179186,-50.449219&sspn=99.303183,157.324219&ie=UTF8&ll=60.965443,101.858368&spn=0.111307,0.307274&t=h&z=12

Some local groups of scars, elliptical ponds, have a same parallel
orientation.
They may have formed in the same event.
On the other hand, many groups have convergent orientation, or divergent.
This feature can be explained by the local time (LT) of the event
occurrence, or the height of the meteors shower radiant in the sky.

Imagine four (4) simultaneous meteoritic events, at the same universal time
(UT), in opposite sides of the globe.
Divided into two (2) entent groups, one couple on South America (X,Z) and
another couple on the South Asian (X?, Z?).
Although the group of events occurred at the same universal time (UT), they
occurred in different local time (LT).

When planning the globe's surface, we find that the trajectories appear to
have convergent angles, although we know that their trajectories are
parallel.

This means that setting the orientation of the palaeolagoons, the elliptical
ponds, they may be associated with local time of the cosmic event, if they
are originated from the same meteoroid stream, albeit at different times
(LT).

A similar effect, but divergent, is observed in relation to meteor showers,
they appear to originate from a small region of the sky, from the radiant.
However please note that this is only an effect of observer's perspective.

A meteor shower duration could be short as 2 days long, like Ursids, to a 40
days Taurids or Aquarids, Ophiunchids is a 25 days long.
On average, one week is the most common!
Thus, the Earth as it approached a torus of meteoroids can traverse an orbit
of meetings, lasting from 2 to 40 days.
And travel from 5 to 100 million kilometers into the torus of meteoroids
from defuncts comets.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Schwassman-Wachmann3-B-HST.gif

The meteoroids of toroid orbit around the Sun in parallel orbits.
Each meteoroid has its own orbit, and reach the Earth as parallel meteors.

The inner toroidal chaotic distribution of the meteoroid stream that reaches
the ground can form multiple events and groups of palaeolagoons with quite
different aspects, from a single elliptical pond or square lagoons in a
range of impacts, still, to a more abstract groupings, amoeboid when they
are modified by water in the last thousand years.
The palaeolagoons can have a dozen or hundreds of meters, to a dozen
kilometer size.
Often they are very shallow.

In 2004 during a scientific mission, Italian and Bazilian scientists
investigated the Quar? palaeolagoon in S?o Raimundo Nonato, in Piau?,
Brazil, and conducted a sediment lagoon profile.
The group identified five (5) units of sediments (U.S.). The US-3: is a
Silliceous clasts rocks layer, and it could be 12,900 BP old sedment.

http://www.missioneitaliabrasile.net/missioni/2004/index.html

The US-3 clasts layer are not vulcanic, and they are possible impactites.

http://maps.google.com.br/maps?hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=-9.345224,-42.744284&spn=0.006754,0.009602&z=17

The Quar? palaeolagoon is the result of range of low density meteoroid
impacts around the year 10,900 BC.
Many others ponds in the region could have a more recent origin, from a low
frequency events, millennial, but also cosmic.

Review, contact:
Pierson Barretto <cosmopier at gmail.com>

Best viewed 1280x960 pixels.
Since 2010


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pierson Barretto" <cosmopier at gmail.com>
To: "Rich Murray" <rmforall at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: porous, white, foamy rocks, also as surface coatings on other
rocks: Pierson Barretto: Rich Murray 2010.09.22


Hello Murray

Yes, they are on Texas and New Mexico aligned elliptical palaeolagoons
fields distribution consistent for a meteoritic event.
On San Miguel and Mora border elliptical palaeolagoons are very promising!

See the site: https://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/

Do You have any of that foamy rocks? picture?

regards
pierson


2010/9/23 Rich Murray <rmforall at comcast.net>:

porous, white, foamy rocks, also as surface coatings on other rocks: Pierson
Barretto: Rich Murray 2010.09.22

Hello Pierson Barretto,

I've found them on the ground within 160 km of Santa Fe in all directions,
in every size from dust to pebbles to rocks, boulders, and layers over 10 m
thick, often associated with every size of shallow craters, which are
variously round, oval, and irregular, with a fractal distribution of sizes
in many fields.

These white features are common all over Earth.

I guess that a large, mostly ice, comet would carry a percentage of SiO2,
CaO2, CaCO3, NaCl, TiO2, and many other white minerals -- perhaps many
deposits of gypsum (CaSO4, common around Santa Fe) and boron and lithium
minerals originate from the many fragments of the original
Taurid Comet, which could have been impacting many times over the recent
30-50 Ka period.

I guess these rocks and layers will have very few fossils.

I urge anyone interested to just look around at any nearby fairly dry,
higher altitude area with little vegetation and fairly hard, dark bedrock.

Collect somes samples and find someone to do precise mircroscopic photos,
with analysis of the elements and isotopes, while looking at the crystal
structures for evidence of high temperature, high pressure shocks.
Put the evidence on a blog.

These sites, easy to drive to from Santa Fe and Albuquerque, are typical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caja_del_Rio

west edge of Santa Fe River Canyon,
35.553 -106.221,1.840 km elevation,
the white road is the original Route 66,
now County Road 56C,
on the dark Caja del Rio lava plateau,
.166 km above

35.551227 -106.237646 1.674 km elevation.
bridge over the Santa Fe River, the original Route 66 that
winds steely uphill to the NE, with many porous white rocks,
rock coatings, and layers along the way

35.523880 -105.175579,
1.961 km elevation,
McAllister Pond, Las Vegas, New Mexico

Laguna del Perro, 34.574648 -105.956519,
1.877 km high point, Estancia, New Mexico,
crater to S 1.840 km low (37 m deep),
with Route 60 and the main railroad

In mutual service, Rich Murray


Original Message ----- From: COSMOPIER
To: rmforall at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:41 PM
Subject: [RoomForAll] New comment on excellent Google Earth and ground views
of shallow....

COSMOPIER has left a new comment on your post "excellent Google Earth and
ground views of shallow...":

Dear Murray,

You last comment that you have found some siliceous clasts rocks ...
I've found many similar porous, white, foamy rocks at shallow craters in New
Mexico...

Please could you send us any GoogleMap link for them?

Posted by COSMOPIER to RoomForAll blog
at Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:41:00 PM MDT

http://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/palaeometeorstream/home
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I ran up my white flag too soon -- 23 experts firmly show YDB
era Greenland ice layer that has unique huge numbers of impact
nanodiamonds in 11-page paper in J Glaciology:
Rich Murray 2010.09.02
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Thursday, September 2, 2010
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Cox crisply comments; full text of "No evidence";
Comet theory carbonized, Rex Dalton, nature.com;
fungus found abstract: Rich Murray 2010.08.31
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Tuesday, August 31, 2010
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3 times more downward energy from directed force of
meteor airburst in 3D simulations by Mark B. E. Boslough,
Sandia Lab 2007.12.17: Rich Murray 2010.08.30
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excellent Google Earth and ground views of shallow oval
craters worldwide, Pierson Barretto: Rich Murray 2010.08.22
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Sunday, August 22, 2010
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BS MIT 1964, history and physics,
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