[meteorite-list] Holocene Extinctions

From: E.P. Grondine <epgrondine_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:07:06 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <1321459626.85569.YahooMailClassic_at_web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi all -

I see from today's news that many people are still confused by the extinctions caused by the Holocene Start Impacts. Its really pretty easy, as Elephants need 450 pounds of food a day.

Perhaps the following will explain it better.
Good hunting, all -
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas


THE WASHINGTON SCABLANDS AND ASSINIBOINE IMPACT ACCOUNTS

Several posters here are interested in Harlan Bretz and the spread of his catastrophist hypothesis for the formation of the Washington sacablands. Currently, while all geologists agree that the scablands were formed by catastrophic flooding, there is debate over whether they were caused by the release of one or multiple lakes and exactly when the flooding(s) occurred. Of course, as oil companies have for years been drilling cores off the coast of Washington, those questions could be readily answered, except that those cores are proprietary.

I spent some time reading through Adrienne Mayor's book "Fossil Legends of the First Americans" recently. It turns out that the Assiniboine (Nakota) may have remembered at least one of those floods. Mayor's book is pretty good, and she nearly succeeds in spanning the two worlds, but sadly she did not realize that the peoples remembered impacts, and thus failed to entirely grasp fundamental concepts like "uktena" and "tlanwa". Mayor also retells the traditions with her intense interest in fossils coloring her retellings, and it is tough using her book to locate the original traditions as they were first shared. However, that said, it is a pretty good book.

THE NAKOTA (ASSINIBOINE) ACCOUNTS IN MAYOR'S RETELLING

Fragment 1:

"One Assiniboine name for bones of monstrous size was "Wau-wau-kah". This was a "half spirit, half animal" imagined as a great river monster with long black[?]hair, scales, and horns like trees.

"Myth [tradition - epg] tells of its death by the impact of a "thunder stone", a black ["black" due to the ablated surfaces of the meteorites which the Nakota later collected. - epg], projectile that came whistling out of the west with "terrible velocity", "defeaning noise", and "a bright flash" - a scenario that seems akin to the modern theory of an asteroid impact 65 million years ago [Mayor gets very close here - epg]. "My bones may be found", warned the Water Monster Wau-wau-kah, but unless the Assiniboines made offerings to its spirit, the monster vowed to create disastrous floods and block their trails with its colossal bones."

Fragment 2:

"A tale [tradition - epg] of the antagonism between Thunder and Water Monsters was recounted by an Assiniboine story teller [tradition keeper - epg] (perhaps Coming Day? - AM) in 1909 at Fort Belknap.

"Long ago, some Sioux and Assiniboines camping at a big lake witnessed a battle between Thunder Bird and a Water Monster on an island in the lake."

The storyteller's grandmother had told him that: "as the Thunder Bird drew the writhing monster up from the island, the Indians' hair and their horses manes, [a non-temporal insertion? - epg] stood on end from the electricity.

["electricity" is another non-temporal insertion. Perhaps it may also be a modern simple telling of a large electrophorenic effect from the impactors entries. In regards to the "horses manes", it needs to be noted that a rider on a horse in the plains is a high point that will attract lightening, much as a golfer standing on a gold course will, and thus it was very important to know the signs of an impending lightening strike.]

"The Thunder Bird's lightening ignited raging forest fires; then a long terrible blizzard followed; and still later the lake bed dried up and many kinds of animals perished there."

"The raging forest fires" were likely caused by the infrared of multiple impacts. "the long terrible blizzard" describes the a standard severe climate collapse caused by atmospheric impact dust loading.

"the Lake" of the Assiniboine is as yet unlocated; perhaps it was Lake Agassiz, but much more likely it was a glacial lake much further south ("forest fires").

Why did that lake dry up? Either its ice damn failed ("disasterous floods", above), or there was a lack of precipitation due to a cooling of the temperature of the Pacific Current.

"The many kinds of animals" likely perished due to lack of food, a famine which appears as a common element in many of the First Peoples' memories of the Holocene Start Impacts.

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