[meteorite-list] NWAs and their country of origin

From: MikeG <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:47:51 -0400
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW8zUoCac6TfYMF5DnEPxJ6tn=7Vvf3Rcx6gQ5TRwc8XzQ_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the clarification. Did the Moroccan finder of NWA 2975 die
of natural causes inside Algeria, or did he meet a violent end?

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 7/30/12, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
> I bought the meteorite in Morocco,it came from Algeria that same day.
> The Moroccan man who found all the NWA 2975/2986 stones died in Algeria
> while going to the location. Those Martian meteorites are from Algeria.
>
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Jeff Grossman <jngrossman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's why we call these NWA.  We report what we are told about the
>> meteorites.  If we can resolve conflicting information, we will.  But
>> often it is impossible or difficult.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On 7/30/2012 2:56 PM, Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Universit? de Haute Alsace
>> ENSCMu, wrote:
>>> Dear Jeff, list,
>>>
>>> I overlooked with curiosity the link suggested by Jeff (example of NWA
>>> 2986 described in Met Bull). Nothing to argue about the O isotopic data,
>>> all is OK there.
>>>
>>> But read the whole writeup by curiosity and note that NWA 2986 is
>>> "probably paired with NWA 2975 and related stones".
>>>
>>> Upon clicking at NWA 2975 (link given), it appears its country is
>>> Algeria, the meteorite being purchased by M. Farmer in Erfoud (Morocco)
>>> but beneath, it is said that the place op purchase is...Algeria.
>>> Nothing dramatic though somewhat confusing...
>>>
>>> Now, back to NWA 2986.
>>> If both shergottites are paired, souldn't one expect they were found in
>>> the same country ? Though the find place for NWA 2575 is referred to as
>>> Algeria while Morocco is claimed to be the find place of NWA 2986 ...
>>>
>>> Strange again, this could suggest to some readers that both were possibly
>>> found somewhere near the border of the two countries (logically, where
>>> they fell...)
>>>
>>> Both were purchased (at different moment) in the same city (Erfoud) by
>>> the same person (Farmer). Though not sure the seller was the same (only
>>> Mike can tell).
>>>
>>> It is possible the seller N? 1 told Mike NWA 2975 was found in Algeria
>>> and the N? 2 that NWA 2986 comes from Morocco. Or  that the same seller
>>> claimed the same...Or perhaps he (or they) actually did not know at all
>>> where it was found...or forgot?...or mentined a country just by
>>> chence...or by purpose ?
>>>
>>> Why, in such a confusing case, not simply mention as country "NWA" or
>>> "Sahara", as it is often mentioned so for most of the NWAs ?
>>>
>>> Is there somebody in the NomCom supposed to correct and to address these
>>> obvious uncertainties some day ?
>>>
>>> Thanks and best wishes,
>>>
>>> Zelimir
>>
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