[meteorite-list] Glorieta Mountain (Was: Pojoaque Pallasite)

From: Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, <Zelimir.Gabelica_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 10:59:10 +0200
Message-ID: <20120501105910.geiijou0e4o4g04c_at_w3mail.univ-mulhouse.fr>

Hello Bernd,

Very interesting data about these historical synonyms of Glorietta.

I do have the Hey catalogue and the Buchwald treatise but would never
had the idea to go through to find such details.

You remain invaluable not only in having built your endless library
and a computer-assisted literature compilation, but especially in
being able to select by heart the document in which you are sure to
find very rapidly the most appropriate reference.

Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge and expertise!

See you soon in Ensisheim ?

Kindest regards,

Zelimir

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Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
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"Bernd V. Pauli" <bernd.pauli at paulinet.de> a ?crit?:
> Regine inquired:
>
> "I too would like to know where this one is being kept. What baffles
>  me though, how does one get to the conclusion the meteorite had been
>  carried in a medicine bag? It doesn't sound implausible, but what are
>  the  clues? Magic powder topping? Is there any further info?"
>
> Hello All,
>
> Many of us still have the 4th edition of the Meteorite Catalogue (1985).
> Most of us still have the 5th edition of the Meteorite Catalogue (2000).
>
> But few collectors, dealers, meteoriticists still have the 3rd edition
> on their bookshelves [Hey M.H. (1966) Catalogue of Meteorites].
>
> On page 387, you find the following info:
>
> Pojoaque, Santa Fe, Santa Fe County, New Mexico, U.S.A.
> Found before 1931.
> 35? 54' N., 1? 0' W.
> Stony-iron. Pallasite?
>
> A fragment of 84 grams was found in the ancient pueblo of Pojoaque =  
> Pojuaque)
> (L.F. Brady, Amer. Journ. Sci., 1931, ser. 5, vol. 21, p. 178 [M.A.  
> 5-12]; H.H.
> Nininger, The Mines Magazine, Golden, Colorado, 1933, vol. 23, no.  
> 7, p. 4 and
> no. 8, p. 6 [M.A. 5-405]). Probably a fragment of Glorieta Mountain  
> (H.H. Nininger,
> Amer. Antiquity, 1938, vol. 4, p. 39 [M.A. 7-272]; Amer. Journ. Sci., 1940,
> vol. 236, p. 56 [M.A. 7-544]). Main mass in the Laboratory of Anthropology,
> Santa F?; 6 gr in H.H. Nininger's collection.
>
> And now let's go to Buchwald:
>
> BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Vol. 2, pp. 598:
>
> Two exceptions are the specimens which were described as Pojoaque  
> (Brady 1931; Nininger 1933b) and Sante F? (Henderson 1934), and  
> which are still listed as separate meteorites by Hey (1966).  
> Pojoaque (No. 12) is a 128 gr fragment found in the ancient Indian  
> pueblo of this name. lt was found in a pottery bowl, and it has been  
> suggested that its bright, worn exterior may be accounted for by  
> assuming that it had long been carried in the pouch of a medicine  
> man (Brady 1931). The ruin in which it was found is about 50 km  
> northwest of Canon?ito, but since the structure and the state of  
> preservation correspond exactly to that of authentic Glorieta  
> Mountain specimens, Pojoaque is, no doubt, a transported fragment.  
> Present location (p. 599): Laboratory of Anthropology, Santa F?  
> (Ref.: Brady, 1931; Nininger 1940a).
>
> So, if it is still there, the answer to Regine's inquiry should be:
>
> => Laboratory of Anthropology, Santa F? <=
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bernd
>
>
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