[meteorite-list] SUTTER'S MILL in MetBull

From: Greg Hupé <gmhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 22:26:09 -0400
Message-ID: <5C8B3ACEDF034BEC91BA4E4DCED73F8A_at_Gregor>

Hey all,

I think Jeff stated it pretty clearly as far as the speed of the name
approval. I believe that this week, or even next, is the deadline for
abstracts to be submitted for the August conference in Australia, and that
is why the name was approved so quickly with a 'placeholder' classification.
I have seen this happen several times in the past. It does help the
scientists get the info out in the next conference with an officially
approved name, but it does lead to confusion in the initial MetBull entry. I
think everyone needs to remember, as Jeff has stated a few times, that work
is still under way by many labs around the world, and that the initial
'class' info will be defined as the abstracts and other future analysis
proceeds.

This is a very exciting meteorite, every day reveals just a little bit
more... What other meteorite has the honor of being used to calibrate
systems to be used on a spacecraft destined to return samples from an
asteroid? :)

Best Regards,
Greg

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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Gilmer
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:02 PM
To: Jeff Grossman
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SUTTER'S MILL in MetBull

Hi Jeff and List,

I think the speedy approval and publication is a great service to the
meteorite community as a whole (science and laypeople alike), because
it provides authoritative data during an event that is still
unfolding, and this might help prevent some misunderstandings or
misinformation that could have resulted without a published
classification. Great job on getting it done quick. :)

On the other hand, I am a bit puzzled by the temporary "place-holder"
type of "C - Carbonaceous". I understand what it means and why it was
selected. However, this seems unusual for an approval that is
published in the database. We don't see this very often. In the
past, the release of an approved classification was usually withheld
until a more definitive conclusion was reached on the petrologic type.
In other words, we don't see too many of these "placeholder"
classification types. Am I wrong, or did Sutter's Mill merit this
because of it's important and unusual nature?

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 5/22/12, Jeff Grossman <jngrossman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, that is what I meant.
>
> On 5/22/2012 7:08 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>>> Wow - that classification was fast, exactly one month. I guess now it
>>> needs to be compared to the other C's  and if there are three alike,
>>> perhaps a brand new C-chondrite group.
>> Don't read too much into the simple "C" classification. This is very
>> preliminary, and the classification will no doubt gain specificity as
>> analyses at multiple labs are performed. (This is what Jeff meant
>> in the "be patient" comment below.) For now, think of "C" as a
>> placeholder: we know it's a carbonaceous chondrite. ;-)  --Rob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Jeff Grossman
>> Sent: 22 May 2012 21:31:47 GMT
>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SUTTER'S MILL in MetBull
>>
>> For those of you who are disappointed in the classification, be patient.
>> Science sometimes takes time.  I'm sure various groups will be refining
>> this in coming days and weeks.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
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