[meteorite-list] Roadside Hunting and Ownership

From: Michael Mulgrew <mikestang_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:47:51 -0700
Message-ID: <CAMseTy3q=UYdqC6sSYGmQnnjPMxkury-8VDdwopTc_bNp_oLAw_at_mail.gmail.com>

Count Deiro and list,

Really? Well I guess I learned my new thing for the day and I can go home! :)

I've never come across anything like the Count described before, I am
assuming it's only practiced in remote rural locations? Now my
curiosity have been sparked, as state departments of transportaion are
typically VERY protective of their right-of-ways, a case can be made
for them being more stringent than the BLM in several regards. Even
my boss, who had double my years of experience, had never heard of
this. I would love to see a specific example, time to do some
research!

Best,
Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> Michael has said that BLM does not manage any federal or state right of way
> systems. That information may be partially, or completely, incorrect. The
> BLM has co-operating land management agreements with federal, state and
> county right of way owners in most western states, Nevada, as an example and
> DOES manage the land under those right of ways and it's uses.
>
> My source is the BLM:
>
> Las Vegas Field Office
> 4701 North Torrey Pines Drive
> Las Vegas, NV 89130
> Phone: 702-515-5000
> Fax: 702-515-5023
> Office hours: 7:30 am-4:30 pm, M-F
> Field Manager: Bob Ross
> Email: lvfoweb at blm.gov
>
> Best regards,
>
> Count Deiro
>
> IMCA 3536
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> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Michael Mulgrew
>>Sent: Oct 3, 2012 9:55 AM
>>To: Meteorite List
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Roadside Hunting and Ownership
>>
>>Brian and List,
>>
>>I am a practicing Civil Engineer and have a lot of experience with
>>road right-of-ways. Generally the right-of-way for Federal highways
>>are owned by the State through which they pass. States acquire the
>>right-of-way and build the highways and then can apply for the
>>acceptance into the Federal system, but sometimes for cost and other
>>reasons only part of a highway may be introduced into the Federal
>>system (such as the recent extension of I-210/SR-210 in southern
>>California). The rural road example you give would be one where an
>>easement for access across private land has been granted for purposes
>>of road construction, operation, and maintenance. In the case you
>>cite the easement probably only extends from edge of pavement to edge
>>of pavement, thus the ditch is considered private. Ownership of road
>>rights-of-way should be discoverable at your local County offices.
>>
>>The BLM does not manage right-of-ways with the Federal or any of the
>>State systems, so this new BLM policy would not apply to finds made
>>there. Finds made there would technically belong to the people of the
>>State in which it was found, and that State's individual rules should
>>apply.
>>
>>Best,
>>Michael in so. Cal.
>>
>>On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Brian Burrer wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings List,
>>>
>>> I have been following with interest the recent chatter concerning BLM
>>> regulations; questions arise in my mind concerning roadside
>>> recoveries.
>>> I would guess that ownership of the find could vary widely depending
>>> on what roadside it was found on.
>>> Rural county roads in Texas are typically privately owned; the land
>>> under the road is owned by individuals who pay taxes on it just like
>>> the rest of their land. The road is public but the bar-ditch is
>>> private; ownership clearly falls to the landowner.
>>> But what about state and federal highway margins; this is not
>>> typically (maybe ever) BLM land so what rules apply?
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