[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
From: Linton Rohr <lintonius_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 19:25:03 -0800 Message-ID: <C4845CEE7ECF40689AF6B113FC4B8FBB_at_D190TH71> Anne, and listoids, The IMPACTIKA Catalog of Meteorites has an asterisk beside some meteorite names, designating "falls". <<< NAME (*=Fall) >>> Aren't they all falls now? ;^) I'm fairly certain you're *not* going to amend it to differentiate between Observed and Unobserved ones. Cheers, Linton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Black" <impactika at aol.com> To: <hall at meteorhall.com>; <mike at meteoriteguy.com> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; <valparint at aol.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day > Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result of a > fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that some falls > are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not. > > So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what > happened to all of them. > That is simple reality. > > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > IMPACTIKA at aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > tFrom: hall <hall at meteorhall.com> > To: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> > Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; valparint > <valparint at aol.com> > Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:13 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day > > > An "unobserved fall" is two words to describe the one word that has > been used for a century, "Find". The one word "Find" is good enough for > the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey Nininger, > and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise. > Regards, Fred Hall > > > > That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through a >> house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not > fall at >> that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the > house, >> yet it was not seen to fall. >> An old rock found in a field does not suggest anything about fall > date. So >> it is a find, something never really argued against until now? >> It has crust which can suggest it is not thousands of years old, most > of >> our Springwater meteorites have black and blue crust but nevertheless > it >> is a find. >> Michael Farmer >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:28 AM, <valparint at aol.com> wrote: >> >>> An "unobserved fall" is, well, a fall that was not observed, in >>> contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of the >>> Meteoritical Bulletin Database is "Observed fall: no". >>> >>> The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but > that >>> the fall was not observed. >>> >>> In general, the questions about falling and finding are: >>> >>> 1) was the fall observed? >>> 2) if so, when was it observed? >>> 3) if not, is there any guesstimate of when it fell? >>> 4) regardless of weather it was observed or not, when was it actually >>> found? >>> >>> Paul Swartz >>> MPOD webmaster >>> >>>> What is an "unobserved fall"? Every meteorite fell at some point. I >>>> have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection. >>>> Michael Farmer >>>> >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Fri 04 Jan 2013 10:25:03 PM PST |
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