[meteorite-list] Suspicious Allende on eBay with a HAPPY CONCLUSION

From: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:50:20 -0800
Message-ID: <094b01cdedc0$3f4fcab0$bdef6010$_at_com>

Here is the final update on the suspicious Allende saga:
Dear mendyo,
Well sir, thankfully that junk meterorite DID NOT SELL, on the eBay, and I
took it back to where I bought it, told the owner about it, and we traded it
for a nice lump of Australian gold (nugget). Opals I know, gold I know,
meteroites I will stay away from in the future. (Unless I find one). I
sincerely want to thank you, for your enlightment, on this posting, good to
have folks out there like you, keeping people in CHECK. Sincerely Kidcentavo
- kidcentavo

-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy
Ouzillou
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:30 PM
To: met-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspicious Allende on eBay and an APOLOGY

dear list members,

Just when I thought that trying to get eBay sellers to pull/alter meteorite
listings was a quixotic effort that would simply accelerate my hair loss,
here is the latest email exchange with Kidcentavo.? Though clearly not a
list member, I will post a sincere apology to him in assuming he was crooked
without offering him the chance to do the right thing first.

He has changed his description which you can read here: http://bit.ly/UhzQDJ


Dear kidcentavo,

Before
 you return it, have someone in your local area who is knowledgeable take a
look at it. Do not take it to not a university geology department unless
they specialize in meteorites. If you will tell me where you are located, I
may be able to find someone who can do that for you.


- mendyo


Dear mendyo,

I
 see tha attach photo's box. [I'll]Take some pictures this week and attach.
Glad the Admire is correct, feel a little better. Found the encyclopedia
website and saw the pictures there in. And my listing looks LESS AND LESS
like a Chihuahua meteorite. There's NOT enough fusion crust on mine, and NO
melilikte-fassalite-anorthite chondrules. (And I know feldspars very well)
(Anorthite is one end member of the albite to anorthite series) Well I will
take it back to the mineral shop when the listing ends and get a refund.
Even though it's been 7 years. A good lesson I have learned there eh?? That
fusion crust lasts alot longer on the specimen in dryier climates than I
thought. Thanks for all your time and advise. As payback from me to you, I
know OPALS better than anyone in the southwest. If you ever decide to get
one, shoot me a close up picture and I'll provide you with some advice of
them... I go every year to Nevada and dig for those suckers. Kidcentavo


- kidcentavo



Dear kidcentavo,

I
 had a listing for a piece of pottery that was not what it had been sold to
me as. Lost over $250, but I pulled the listing immediately and relisted as
a possible fake. Sold for $5 but wanted it out of my house, so I feel your
pain and uncertainty.

The Admire looks exactly as
it should, so no issue there. I own a slice of Glorieta Mountain and it is
absolutely beautiful material. I can't authenticate anything by pictures.
Send me pics by attaching photos to this email string.
I'll be happy to take a look and provide an opinion (but not a
authentication).

A fantastic resource are the following two websites:
1) http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/ (type in the name of the meteorite and
look to the bottom for pictures)
2) http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/

On
 your Allende, focus on the crust. It should be a dark grey to black with
fine cracks. Depending on how you stored it, it may even smell a little
sulfurous.



- mendyo

> On 30 Dec 2012, at 03:07, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yup, it was pulled for a few hours and then he put it back up. Here
>>> is his response back to me regarding the stone's history:
>>> I bought it from Southwestern Minerals and Gems, Albuquerque New
>>> Mexico in
>>> 2005 and it had INFORMATION card with it. i.e. what kind of
>>> meteorite it was, where it was from, and the date of the fall along
>>> with the name of the shop. No mention however WHO COLLECTED IT or
>>> WHEN it was collected, I do not think the owner of the gem shop,
>>> knew that
>> information. ANY other questions?
>>> Kidcentavo
>>> I have blocked him and many other suspicious eBay sellers.? If you
>>> want the list email me privately.
>>>
>>> Mendy
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>>> W&S Schroer
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:17 PM
>>> To: Meteorite List
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspicious (ok, flat out fraud)
>>> Allende on eBay
>>>
>>> Hi Mendy,
>>> the Allende hasn't been pulled yet. At least not here in Australia.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/d29xruz
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Werner Schroer
>>> Australia
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mendy Ouzillou
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:50 AM
>>> To: Mendy Ouzillou
>>> Cc: meteorite list
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspicious (ok, flat out fraud)
>>> Allende on eBay
>>>
>>> The suspicious Allende has been pulled. Looks like kidcentavo got
>>> nervous regarding my inquiry. Adding his name to my s-hit list.
>>>
>>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:09 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/157-1-gram-Allende-Carbonaceous-Chondrite-Me
>>> te
>>> orite-
>>> from-Chihuahua-Mexico-/330850675605?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4
>>> d0
>>> 83cab9
>>> 5
>>> I sent him an email asking who he originally bought the specimen
>>> from. Am curious to see his response.
>>> Had a thought regarding fraudulent sellers on eBay. We should make a
>>> list of these people and make sure they cannot buy specimens from us.
>>> Here is my logic. Seems like some of these scammers buy genuine
>>> items to lend credibility to their other not-so-genuine items listed
>>> for sale. I for one do not want anything I sell to be used as part
>>> of someone else's fraudulent activity. I will start putting a list
>>> together and I'll send it out to everyone who wants it. I will block
>>> these
>> eBayers from buying from me.
>>> If you want to be amused by someone completely delusional, read the
>>> description for this "moon" rock.? I feel bad for Dr. Korotev for
>>> having to put up with this kind of BS.
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-/190777042426?_trksid=p2045573.m20
>>> 42
>>> &_trkp
>>> arms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D
>>> 45
>>> 038637
>>> 28672966212%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D330850675605
>>> %2
>>> 6
>>> Regards,
>>> Mendy
>>>
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