[meteorite-list] Oman contributed 16% of world's meteorite finds in 2011

From: Michael Farmer <mike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:42:00 -0700
Message-ID: <B867E0DE-710D-4584-AE08-32CAD7107DF2_at_meteoriteguy.com>

I know quite well, we were charged with Mining illegally, yet we were ordered released ore-trial/appeal because we had no mining equipment, thus could not be mining:)
Good luck to those who still go there. Oman prison was not really very nice.

Michael Farmer

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On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:29 AM, "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de> wrote:

>> The real question is - what exactly does the Omani law(s) state
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Perhaps the IMCA knows?
> Look:
> http://www.muscatdaily.com/Archive/Oman/IMCA-seeks-clarity-over-laws-on-mete
> orite-trade
>
>
>> It's obvious to all how Oman is viewing the meteorite market now.
>
> I assume like in any other country too: They're viewing it not at all.
>
> I mean, we're speaking about meteorites, don't forget that.
> And no sane mind except a little handful of collectors and researchers on
> the globe cares about such stuff.
> So no reason for hysteria.
>
> Martin
>
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> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2013 17:13
> An: Adam Hupe
> Cc: Adam
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Oman contributed 16% of world's meteorite
> finds in 2011
>
> I will continue to offer Omani meteorites when the opportunity arises.
>
> Ghubara is a good example. The current lawmakers and enforcers in Oman
> weren't born yet when Ghubara was recovered and distributed. Or, they were
> still suckling on the teat. That meteorite, and many others, are
> effectively grandfathered into legal collections. If I was offering such
> meteorites, I wouldn't be worried.
>
> There is no need to lawyer-up just because you have a few Omani meteorites
> in your collection.........yet.
>
> Until US authorities decide to openly meddle further into the market, we
> have not reached a tipping point where we have to worry about arrest for
> simply collecting rocks (celestial rocks, but rocks nonetheless).
>
> It's obvious to all how Oman is viewing the meteorite market now. But that
> does not legally address past Omani meteorites or recoveries.
> One cannot arbitrarily enforce a new interpretation of law to make it
> retroactive for decades and expect every other nation to follow suit.
> What the Omanis want and what is legal under international and national laws
> are completely different and confusing things that are not specifically
> addressed under any law by most nations.
>
> Now, what dealers and hunters will do is obvious and expected - they are
> going to start avoiding Omani meteorites like the plague. Adam is taking a
> prudent and safe approach, but I think it's too early to start ringing the
> alarm bells and tossing out the Omani stones from our collections.
>
> The real question is - what exactly does the Omani law(s) state and how are
> they enforced? The recent affair in 2010 was a hot mess that still doesn't
> make any legal sense. They might be saying on thing to the world, but their
> own courts apparently don't agree.
>
>
>
> On 1/27/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Luckily, all my offerings from Oman predate this royal decree or were
>> covered under one of three permits issued to the Germans. Once I am
>> sold out, I will no longer offer meteorites from Oman. We can ad
>> meteorites from the United States which I will no longer be
>> restocking. I never thought I would see the day when meteorites like
>> Gold Basin, Jellen and Franconia would be considered illegal contraband.
>>
>> This is a distributing trend that will continue due to the
>> popularization of meteorites in the press and on cable TV.
>>
>> Happy Hunting,
>>
>> Adam
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