[meteorite-list] World Record Slice Produced By Marlin Cilz!

From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:06:54 -0700
Message-ID: <CABEOBj+jHHchc50E4wz5gMRZ2nhT-TmjFzZ2m_uZJSX_rdq3qw_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hello Adam,
Your statements confuse me. At what point is a "slice" no longer a
"slice," but a "slab," and at which point does later subdivision of a
slice/slab render it not worthwhile to record the original
slice/slab's weight for purposes of deeming it a record-breaking cut?

It seems like you're using a very specific definition of "complete
slice" to deem this a record-breaking event. Though, not knowing the
weight of the largest slice/slab of 61016 (or other lunar samples), I
find such proclamations...odd.

As to "who cares?" -- apparently you do, since you're making the claims.

I'm all for publicity, but if one's going to make claims regarding
quantitative numbers, one should be able to back them up -- and
probably have the weights of the largest previously cut Apollo sample
slices/slabs on hand to support it. Eyeing a photo and saying "it
looks like it weighs less" doesn't quite cut it.

I can speak for Marlin's fine work, and have no doubt he did a fine
job on the slices. But that's beside the point.

Regards,
Jason



www.fallsandfinds.com


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jason,
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> I looked at the link and what you are calling a complete slice is a slab. If we are going for the world record slab cut, then Marlin still has it.
>
> The largest slab cut from NWA 5000 was as follows:
>
> 3,538 grams
> 238mm X 219mm X 52mm
>
> Of course, this slab was subdivided into five of the worlds largest Lunar complete slices which was the intent from the beginning. Just like NASA always intended to subdivide the 61016 slab for testing. I would estimate the 61016 slab to be less than half the size and weight of the NWA 5000 slab that Marlin produced.
>
> Who cares? Marlin did a wonderful preparation job and is to be commended on a new world record!
>
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> Adam
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
> To: Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
> Cc: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>; Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
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> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World Record Slice Produced By Marlin Cilz!
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> Hello All,
> I hate to rain on the parade, but I'd do some research before making
> 'record-breaking' claims.
>
> http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/lsc/61016.pdf
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> I don't know how much the largest slabs of Apollo material weigh(ed),
> but they were/are sizable. And I don't even know if the huge slabs in
> the above document were/are the largest they cut.
>
> This isn't my project, so I don't feel particularly inclined to ask
> NASA how large their largest slices of lunar material weigh(ed).
>
> Either way the old record probably goes to NASA. Marlin could hold a
> new record having cut a 1.1 kg slice, but that's questionable given
> the photos in the above article, if nothing else.
>
> Regards,
> Jason
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> www.fallsandfinds.com
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> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Greg Hup? <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I am glad you asked for images of the Northwest Africa 5000 complete slices,
>> here are a few to get you started and I can share more as time allows...
>> http://www.naturesvault.net/meteorites/nwa5000.html
>>
>> The sequence of slices liberated from the original 11.528 kilo mass start
>> with CS1 (the 'Ambassador' slice), then CS2, CS3, and so forth to CS6. The
>> slice on today's Meteorite Picture of the Day is CS3. Side 'b' of each slice
>> goes deeper into the mass and the surface area of the slices become even
>> larger than the previous slice.
>>
>> The 483.89 gram 'Mona Lisa of Moon Rocks' slice will start its world tour at
>> the 2013 Ensisheim Show this Friday and continue on to the Sainte Marie aux
>> Mines show if it is still available. I will also be bringing a selection of
>> smaller slices that are gorgeous!
>>
>> If you are going to the Ensisheim Show, or are still contemplating it, this
>> complete slice of NWA 5000 looks incredibly better in person as attempts to
>> capture its beauty by mere photos are very difficult.
>>
>> I hope to see you all there!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Greg
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 5:06 PM
>> To: Adam Hupe
>> Cc: Adam
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World Record Slice Produced By Marlin Cilz!
>>
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> I think I speak for many on the List when I say this :
>>
>> PHOTOS! And LOTS of them. Every angle. High-res. Close-ups of
>> interesting clasts. Inquiring minds wanna see eye candy. :)
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
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>> On 6/17/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A big congratulations should go out to Marlin Cilz who prepared five new
>>> NWA
>>> 5000 complete slices. He broke a world record which I previously held for
>>> 5-1/2 years for preparing the single complete slice known as the
>>> "Ambassador." I never disclosed the record while I held it but it is for
>>> producing the world's largest Moon rock slice. It is doubtful that
>>> anybody
>>> will break Marlin's new record anytime soon,
>>>
>>> The record.is:
>>>
>>> NWA 5000 Complete Slice:
>>> 1,116.78 grams - 238mm X 218mm X 14mm
>>>
>>> My brother, Greg and I would have never had Marlin produce a slice this
>>> big
>>> hadn't it been for a custom order.
>>>
>>> Marlin did a world class job of preparing these slices and I wanted to
>>> thank
>>> him publicly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam Hupe
>>> The Hupe Planetary Collection
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
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>>>
>>> Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 5000
>>>
>>> Contributed by: Greg and Adam Hupe
>>>
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