[meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

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From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 00:48:13 +0200
Message-ID: <007a01ce573e$71943410$54bc9c30$_at_de>

Oops, forgot a shergottite:

Sayh al Uhaymir 005 SHER 930.56$/g ( 930.56 ) 1

Best,
Ma

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Martin Altmann [mailto:altmann at meteorite-martin.de]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 00:39
An: 'meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com'
Betreff: AW: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

Hi boyz,

maybe my old price guide of the season 2000/2001 is helpful?
I compiled it then from 92 offerers from the web and from snail-mail offers.

It's inflation adjusted for the year 2011.

You find it in the German forum (you don't have to be a member or logged in,
to use the Price guide) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6912.0

The lines read as follows:

Meteorite Name - Type today - average price/g (lowest-highest) - number of
offerers.
*=fall (then)

Let me search the Martians....

DaG 476 SHER 1733$/g ( 457 - 3712 ) 13

DaG 489 SHER 1014$/g (550 - 1600) 7

DaG 670 SHER 715$/g (512 -1024) 2

DaG 735 SHER 704$/g ( 704 ) 1

Dho 019 SHER 1536$/g ( 512 - 2560) 1

Los Angeles 001 SHER 5184$/g (3200 - 7168) 2

Shergotty* SHER 6400$/g ( 6400 ) 1

Zagami* SHER 1823.44$/g ( 576 -10666) 12

Nakhla* Nakhlit 3653$/g (1960 - 5760) 4

Lafayette Nakhlit 44965$/g (29482-64000) 2

Governador Valadares Nakhlit 46163$/g (25078-80000) 3

Chassigny* Chassignite 87751$/g (51200-126720) 3

And the Lunars:

Calcalong Creek LUN-M 273485$/g (98970-448000) 1
(damals LUN-A)

DaG 262 LUN-A 49400$/g (38234-64000) 3

DaG 400 LUN-A 24415$/g (12800-32000) 8

And that was it.

Main reason for the difference there between Martians and Moonies, I assume,
is a relatively simple and unromantic one.

Zagami had a pretty large tkw.
And it took until into the second half of the 1980s until it was fully
established, that the shergottites most probably stem from planet Mars.

Before, and I still remember it from the annual Munich shows, you could read
on the Zagami-labels as type: anomalous Eucrite.

And as eucrite one simply couldn't ask such exorbitant prices.
On the other hand, when the suspicion of the Martian origin became stalwart,
it simply would have been not possible to multiple the former price within
1-3 years with a factor of 500x .

Enjoy using the old Price Guide,
is always nice to see for me,
that the old laborious work from then,
is still sometimes good for something today.

Best!
Martin

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[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Adam
Hupe
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 20:55
An: Adam
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

It is very simple.? There were only a couple of lunar meteorites available
at the time while there was several times the weight available in Martian
which has always been the case.? Collectors would be happy with a single
gram of Martian since one piece looked very similar to the next.? Lunar
breccias on the other hand, display many features so each piece was
different enough to create demand for multiple specimens per collection
instead of a single token piece.? The least expensive Lunaites of all time
came from Oman if you adjust the value of the dollar six years ago before it
lost most of its value.?? The supply has dwindled on the Omani lunar
meteorites so most have tripled in price.

NWA changed the landscape for both Lunar an Martian meteorites.? During this
depression, lunar material has remained nearly the same and held most of its
value while Martian offerings are still off peak.? A Martian fall for
$300.00/gram is a bargain.? On the other hand, a Lunar fall could run into
the tens of thousands per gram if we were ever lucky enough to witness one.

I have dealt more Martian and Lunar material than most dealers and see that
they both make good investments if purchased properly.? The entire
collectables market sector has been down the last six years and meteorites
have retained most of their long-term value unless emotional buying was in
play.

Ask any Moroccan what excites them more, a new Martian or a Lunar find? They
know they can get way more any lunar meteorite than Martian so the answer
will always be the same.? Lunar is king.

Adam

----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

I dont disagree, lunar is my favorite but it makes me question... why has
Lunar meteorite value decreased from $25,000 a gram to $400 a gram or less -
in some cases as low as $200 a gram for one certain lunar meteorite?
Thats a loss in value of $24,600 or more in 14 years on lunar while Martian
has increased.
Perhaps Martian samples are on the way to becoming the new king?

Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites

--- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At
> Auction
> To: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 2:15 PM Lunar is still king and always
> will be.? Lunar 14 years ago was over $25,000.00/gram for DAG pieces
> while Martian was only $60.00/gram for Zagami.
> Lunar material can be very striking while there is only one Martian
> breccia.
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
> To: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>;
> Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At
> Auction
>
> 1999 is also 14 years ago... back then lunar was $1500 a gram or more
> always. Today lunar can be had for less then $400 a gram. Times have
> changed.
>
> Greg Catterton
> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/22/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch
> $160,000 At Auction
> > To: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:05 AM They stated that meteorites
> > from Mars tend to fetch more than most other meteorites.? This
> is in
> > direct disagreement with the Smithsonian Magazine
> article,
> > "Mining for Meteorites", 1999 which claims a dislodged
> piece
> > of the Moon is the most coveted of all.
> >
> > This still holds true today.?? I think most people,
> not
> > only collectors, relate more to the Moon because it can
> be
> > seen, has been romanticized since ancient times and
> most
> > lunar meteorites have magnitudes better aesthetic qualities.
> > Interestingly enough, there is multiple
> times
> > more Martian meteorite material available by weight
> than
> > Lunar material.
> >
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > ?
> >
> > ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Tom Randall <tommy2005 at hvc.rr.com>
> > To: Meteorite list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:08 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch
> $160,000
> > At Auction
> >
> >
> > http://bit.ly/10Pfjwv
> >
> > Regards!
> >
> > Tom
> >
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